Is It Rational to Equate Possibility with Probability?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between possibility and probability, exploring whether it is rational to equate the two concepts. Participants engage in a conceptual debate about the nature of possibility, probability, and the implications of asserting something is possible versus probable.

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  • One participant argues that anything can be considered possible since it cannot be definitively proven that something is impossible, using gravity as an example.
  • Another participant humorously asserts that teaching a snake to tap-dance is impossible, though they acknowledge agreement with the initial viewpoint.
  • Some participants propose that while something may be possible, it does not necessarily mean it is probable, emphasizing the distinction between the two concepts.
  • A participant suggests that a human surviving without lungs and a brain is impossible, while another counters that a TV could function as a paperweight without electricity, challenging the notion of what it means for something to "work."
  • One participant suggests that if a disagreement arises, one could simply agree that something is not very probable to resolve the discussion.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of possibility and probability, with no clear consensus reached on whether the two can be equated. Some agree on certain points, while others challenge those assertions, leading to an ongoing debate.

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The discussion includes humorous and hypothetical examples that may not directly relate to the core philosophical question, indicating a playful exploration of the topic rather than a strictly analytical approach.

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Alright, am I the only one that hates discussing if something is "Possible"? In effect, you can say that anything is possible because you can never 100% prove that something is impossible. (I can't 100% gurantee that gravity won't turn off tomorrow, I just have no reason to believe it because we've never observed it happen and have no reason to think it will.)

To me, anything is "Possible", but very few things are "Probable". (Compared to what's Possible, since you can never say that something is 100% impossible)

I get into arguments with my roomate all the time and his argument always boils down to him saying "Well, anythings possible". It almost infuriates me. My view is that when someone tells me "Its POSSIBLE that a meteor will land on your head in 30 seconds", I like to reply with "Only if the meteor is already there heading for me."

Obviously my view is that if it's not there, it's not going to land on my head. We just don't know if it is there, hence the "It's possible" view.

Does anyone else feel this way or does anyone think I am being "close minded" or something?
 
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I still contend that it is impossible to teach a snake to tap-dance, but otherwise I agree with you.
 
Danger said:
I still contend that it is impossible to teach a snake to tap-dance, but otherwise I agree with you.

Doesn't seem impossible to me...tail coiled in one shoe, neck looped through the laces of another...add an electric volt and *clatter clatter*

doesn't sound very good...hum
 
Danger said:
I still contend that it is impossible to teach a snake to tap-dance, but otherwise I agree with you.

Ha, got to love the Danger replies. =)
 
G037H3 said:
Doesn't seem impossible to me...tail coiled in one shoe, neck looped through the laces of another...add an electric volt and *clatter clatter*

doesn't sound very good...hum

Damn! You found a flaw in my logic. I reluctantly concede defeat.
 
just agree and say its not very probable, he has no choice to agree with you
end of discussion
 
Well I'd say a human surviving without lungs and a brain (without outside help) is impossible.

My TV working without a source of electricity is impossible.
 
jarednjames said:
Well I'd say a human surviving without lungs and a brain (without outside help) is impossible.

My TV working without a source of electricity is impossible.

Not true, it could work as a paperweight without electricity.
 
lisab said:
Not true, it could work as a paperweight without electricity.

But that's not working in the way I meant it, nor in the manner for which it was designed. Nice try though.
 

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