Is It Risky to Use Mobile Phones in Lightning?

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The discussion revolves around the perceived risks of using mobile phones during lightning storms, exploring the logic behind these beliefs and the actual dangers involved. It touches on various scenarios, including being indoors versus outdoors, and the nature of mobile signals in relation to lightning.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the logic behind the belief that using mobile phones during a lightning storm is risky, seeking clarification on the perceived risks.
  • One participant suggests that the risk primarily applies to old corded phones connected to electrical outlets, implying that modern mobile phones may not pose the same danger.
  • Another participant raises the question of whether lightning can affect mobile signals, suggesting that proximity to a lightning strike could have an impact.
  • A later reply discusses the nature of digital signals and how they might be less affected by lightning compared to analog signals, such as AM radio.
  • One participant argues that holding a mobile phone during a storm does not significantly increase the risk of being struck by lightning, emphasizing that the strike occurs based on ground and cloud potentials rather than the presence of a phone.
  • Another participant highlights a potential risk scenario where someone might seek better signal reception outdoors, inadvertently becoming a target for lightning due to their height.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the risks associated with mobile phone use during lightning storms, with no consensus reached on the matter. Some believe the risk is minimal for mobile phones, while others remain uncertain about the implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various assumptions about the nature of lightning strikes, mobile signal transmission, and the conditions under which risks may arise, but these assumptions remain unresolved.

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Is it risky to use the mobile phones while lighting occurs outside?

There's a general belief that you should not use mobile phones while it is lighting outside. Is it true?? Is there any logic behind it?
 
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Manula said:
Is it risky to use the mobile phones while lighting occurs outside?

There's a general belief that you should not use mobile phones while it is lighting outside. Is it true?? Is there any logic behind it?

I don't understand. What exactly is the perceived risk here? That the lightning somehow is transmitted via the mobile signal and, what, fry the device?

Zz.
 
I think that risk only applies to the old corded phones, the ones you actually plug into the phone jack and electrical outlet.
 
Are you outside using the phone when it is lightning?
 
SteamKing said:
Are you outside using the phone when it is lightning?

Yes. I was relating to such a situation. But not in an open area like some paddy field.
 
Can lighting affect the mobile signals?
 
Manula said:
Can lighting affect the mobile signals?

If you are close enough to the strike then I believe it can.
 
Manula said:
Can lighting affect the mobile signals?

Drakkith said:
If you are close enough to the strike then I believe it can.
you may hear a crackle of the audio signal, but because of the style of transmission mode ... being a digital signal its less likely to occur because of data error correction routines within the digital system.

This is unlike , say you AM radio receiver that you can hear the crackle of lightning strikes from many kilometres away

OHHH BTW holding onto /using a mobile phone during a storm either inside or outside is not going to increase the risk of you being struck by lightning.
the strike is going to happen where the ground and cloud potentials have built up enough for the discharge to occur and if you are unlucky enough to be in that same spot you may well become part of the strike conduction path... having a tiny piece of plastic and metal of a phone in your hand isn't going to make much difference considering the strike may have already traveled several kilometres through the air before striking the ground or you.

there's probably more metal in that bunch of car, house, work keys you have in your pocket than there is metal in a modern cellphone

cheers
Dave
 
Drakkith said:
I think that risk only applies to the old corded phones, the ones you actually plug into the phone jack and electrical outlet.

Yea, I would bet this is where the idea came from. Any corded and plugged in appliance or device would be extra dangerous during a lightning storm, if only slightly.


http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/lightning/lightning_faq.htm#10
 
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The only risk I see with using a mobile phone in a storm might go like this...

Bad signal indoors for some reason so you head outside.
Best signal is clear of buildings so you head for the park.
You are now the tallest thing around... zap.
 
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Thanks Everyone!
 

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