Is it Time to Rethink US State Names?

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The discussion revolves around the idea of rethinking the names and borders of U.S. states, exploring historical naming inconsistencies and proposing various humorous and unconventional suggestions for state consolidation and renaming. The scope includes conceptual and theoretical considerations rather than practical proposals.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest merging states with directional names, such as North and South Dakota or North and South Carolina, into single entities.
  • There are proposals to combine Virginia and West Virginia, citing historical context.
  • One participant humorously suggests ceding New Mexico back to Mexico for naming consistency.
  • Another participant questions whether New York, New Jersey, and New Hampshire should be ceded back to England, extending the idea of renaming based on historical ties.
  • Suggestions include renaming Hawaii to "West Los Angeles" and ceding Alaska to Canada to fit a new logical map scheme.
  • Some participants propose a radical renaming scheme, suggesting states be numbered sequentially like streets.
  • There are humorous suggestions to eliminate smaller states like Maryland and Delaware or merge states with similar names or characteristics, such as Illinois, Indiana, and Iowa.
  • Participants share updated maps reflecting their proposed changes, including various territorial adjustments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion features multiple competing views and humorous suggestions, with no consensus reached on any specific proposal. Participants engage in playful banter and explore a variety of ideas without settling on a definitive plan.

Contextual Notes

Participants express nostalgia and humor in their suggestions, which may not reflect serious political or geographical considerations. The discussion includes speculative ideas that rely on historical context and personal opinions.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in geography, U.S. history, or humorous takes on state names and borders may find this discussion engaging.

  • #121
motai said:
I thought that it just didn't make sense that the small portion of Michigan above one of the Great Lakes wasn't part of Wisconsin, so I added it to Wisconsin instead of Michigan. :devil:
Hey, if you take "da U.P." away from Michigan, you have to give back to Michigan the slice of northwest Ohio that includes Toledo. Otherwise Michigan might start another Toledo War. :eek:

[added] Ah, I now see that you all have gone way beyond this level... carry on!
 
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  • #122
Since the city of Toledo was not chartered until 1837 and since the fracas was not actually a war, the term "Toledo War" is ...
hmmm, not as interesting as I thought.
 
  • #123
Most Improved member Award Evo?

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  • #124
Stop being a dink.
 
  • #125
what have you earned for not sucking up?
 
  • #126
Dignity, Self-respect, you know, all that crap. Oh, and I have immunity.
 
  • #127
Since when does a smurf have dignity and self-respect?
 
  • #128
Jesus, if anyone could see my first few posts I would totally massacre anybody in the "Most Improved Member" award. Wow, extremely embarrassing. Back then I didn't know anything about physics either!
 
  • #129
oooh! I like Yomamma's map!
Voting and counting ballots is really time consuming - can't we just give Yomamma all the prizes this year? It just seems like the most efficient thing to do.
 
  • #130
Janus said:
Does this mean we need to cede New York, New Jersey and New Hampshire back to England? Or do we bite the bullet and cede all the New England region?

What? After all the trouble to dump all that tea in the harbor? (it's never been the same since) Would our football team become the Expatriots? Would we replace the Kennedy monarchy with Wills and Charles?

How about we just get Old England to join the U.S. and just name it all England instead? We already share the some of the same accent quirks (dropped r's), the best colleges in the world, and the same U.N. agenda.

- New Phobos
 
  • #131
Phobos said:
We already share the some of the same accent quirks (dropped r's),
You've never been there, have you?
 
  • #132
Math Is Hard said:
oooh! I like Yomamma's map!
Voting and counting ballots is really time consuming - can't we just give Yomamma all the prizes this year? It just seems like the most efficient thing to do.
I'll give you a million dollars if you let ME count it, OR if you just throw away yomamma...

EDIT: MIH, do you realize that he gave you the least amount of land, AND ITS CRAPPY LAND!
 
  • #133
moose said:
I'll give you a million dollars if you let ME count it, OR if you just throw away yomamma...

EDIT: MIH, do you realize that he gave you the least amount of land, AND ITS CRAPPY LAND!
oh, no, baby, he gave me Dixieland - my land of hot sauce and collard greens. He knows right where my heart is! :approve:
 
  • #134
jtbell said:
Hey, if you take "da U.P." away from Michigan, you have to give back to Michigan the slice of northwest Ohio that includes Toledo. Otherwise Michigan might start another Toledo War. :eek:

[added] Ah, I now see that you all have gone way beyond this level... carry on!

:confused: What is "Michigan"? I have never heard such a state. All we know is that chunk of the U.S. is now known as "Fridiga" :biggrin:

If you need directions to Fridiga, try to find it between Canada and Colombia. :-p
 
  • #135
Math Is Hard said:
oooh! I like Yomamma's map!
Voting and counting ballots is really time consuming - can't we just give Yomamma all the prizes this year? It just seems like the most efficient thing to do.
Yeah, I'm leaning toward letting yomamma sweep the awards this year. Not that this new truckload of dark Belgian <chomp> chocolate <snarf> has anything to do with my decision. o:)
 
  • #136
Evo said:
Yeah, I'm leaning toward letting yomamma sweep the awards this year. Not that this new truckload of dark Belgian <chomp> chocolate <snarf> has anything to do with my decision. o:)

http://nirvanachocolates.com

How many truckloads goes monthly to the PF sisterhood? I believe its seventeen? why not eighteen? (god, danger's credit card rules)
 
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  • #137
How'd you manage to morph it from a checkbook into a credit card?
 
  • #138
The PF sisterhood loans me all kinds of gadgets
 
  • #139
motai said:
:confused: What is "Michigan"? I have never heard such a state. All we know is that chunk of the U.S. is now known as "Fridiga" :biggrin:
If you need directions to Fridiga, try to find it between Canada and Colombia. :-p
and if you go straight South from Detroit what's the first different Country you come to?

that's right Canada. so it should be between Canada and Canada, not Colombia [/color]
 
  • #140
tribdog said:
and if you go straight South from Detroit what's the first different Country you come to?

I bet you win a lot of bets in bars/pubs with that one. :smile:
 
  • #141
tribdog said:
and if you go straight South from Detroit what's the first different Country you come to?

According to our new map, it would be France.
 
  • #142
jtbell said:
I bet you win a lot of bets in bars/pubs with that one. :smile:
you'd think so, but it seems like the only people dumb enough to make a bar bet usually get confused by the term South and end up saying Canada anyway.
 
  • #143
tribdog said:
and if you go straight South from Detroit what's the first different Country you come to?
You would not believe the number of times we encountered Yanks driving south across the border from Detroit with skis on their car racks in the middle of August. It was like 100* F. with 99% humidity, and they wanted to know where the snow was! We'd tell them to turn around and go back the way they came from for 8 or 9 hundred miles.
 

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