Is it Time to Rethink US State Names?

[Chi Meson]

That creates yet another problem... then it wouldn't just be the "United States of America" but rather just "America." If we were to call it just America, then we'd have to include Latin America and South America as well. That, and Canada will have to join as well... something that some people in the US actually want to happen (manifests in the phrase "Canada is just an extension of the US") .
That and we'd have to create memorials and statues for Amerigo Vespucci, just to have it make sense .

Did you know that "Amerigo" is the old Itallian version of "Henry"? Therefore we should all be living in "North Henrietta".

 

[Janus]

I'm not sure the West L.A. works anymore. If I didn't think it was such a nice place for vacationing, I'd say just sink it.

Well, if we included it in the Time Zone naming scheme it would be called Hawaii, (as that is the name of its time zone ) and we would be right back where we started!

 

[Janus]

Just think of the cost savings by eliminating all those state governments.

Those will probably be eaten up in the court battles over which of the existing state capitols will become the capital of the new combined state

 

[Evo]

I'm adding this to the "classics" thread.

 

[Moonbear]

Well, we could fuse them all into one state named, "State," and then we'd just have to drop an s in the name of the country: United State of America.

Oh, let's just give Hawaii to New Zealand then. They're kind of a tiny country, and as long as they let us visit, I think we could do without it.

 

[Smurf]

Hey guys, while we're at it can Canada cede Alberta to you, in exchange for Alaska of course.

 

[Evo]

Hey guys, while we're at it can Canada cede Alberta to you, in exchange for Alaska of course.

Ooops, did we forget Alaska?

So, does this mean that Canada is now part of the US? If you look at where Alaska is, to make things even, looks like we could go either way.

 

[Gale]

Alberta would make our country look funny! how dare you propose such riddiculousness!

and anyway, shouldn't you get rid of quebec? they're trying to be their own country anyway aren't they? crazy french...

 

[Smurf]

Why would Canada be part of the US? You've been ceding territory to Canada this entire thread, now you want to annex all of it?

 

[Gale]

wait a second... i just realized I'm british now!

 

[Evo]

Why would Canada be part of the US? You've been ceding territory to Canada this entire thread, now you want to annex all of it?

Like I said, it could go either way, but we'd want something in return for Alaska.

Sorry Gale, you were placed under British rule yesterday.

 

[mattmns]

[...] but we'd want something in return for Alaska.

Yeah! We want a years supply of Canadian Bacon!

 

[Evo]

Yeah! We want a years supply of Canadian Bacon!

Ooooh, yeah! Do they make anything else we want?

Moose sweaters! I want moose sweaters!

 

[Moonbear]

I thought we already gave Alaska to Canada yesterday.

While we're at it, we really should adjust those state lines to align with the borders of the Canadian territories, just to make the continent a bit tidier. I mean, we can't go to all this effort to clean up our states and then have the neighborhood still look a mess due to one sloppy neighbor.

 

[matthyaouw]

wait a second... i just realized I'm british now!

Mwahaha, yes, yes you are! You have much to learn. A few basics to start you off:

-New York state is now New Yorkshire.
-You will admit that the Brits having bad teeth myth is not true, else mutilate your own accordingly.
-You will drink tea and you will enjoy it.
-Your military will obey us. We invade Easterny at dawn.

 

[Janus]

I'm not sure the West L.A. works anymore. If I didn't think it was such a nice place for vacationing, I'd say just sink it.

Simple solution: Simply remove its statehood and revert it to the same status as Puerto Rico and The Virgin Islands. That way we keep the vacation spot and also solve the problem of such a small populace having 1/5 of the votes in the Senate.

 

[Moonbear]

So, what does this mean for my citizenship status? I was born in New Jersey (now British territory), but currently live in Easterny.

 

[Gale]

mmm yes, a spot of tea and crumpets, and um, pish posh... and 'ello gov'nah... top o' tha mornin' to you luv...
eh?

i'm a good brit! woohoo!

 

[Smurf]

Like I said, it could go either way, but we'd want something in return for Alaska.

Yes, ALBERTA! TAKE ALBERTA!

 

[Janus]

Yes, ALBERTA! TAKE ALBERTA!

The only way that we'll take Alberta is if we can shift it down to fill in that ugly gap made by giving up New Mexico!

 

[Evo]

The only way that we'll take Alberta is if we can shift it down to fill in that ugly gap made by giving up New Mexico!

Maybe we should have thought out New Mexico better. Perhaps we could have just renamed it so that we didn't have to give it away?

 

[wasteofo2]

Maybe we should have thought out New Mexico better. Perhaps we could have just renamed it so that we didn't have to give it away?

We could've just called it Mexico and forced the "actual" Mexico to change its name.

I guess I got here kinda late, so what I say now won't really get back our presently ceeded territory, but the same thing could've been done with all of New England. Call the states York and Hampshire, and call the region England. See if the "actual" England wants to start anything up. I guess it's too late now though.

 

[Janus]

So, what does this mean for my citizenship status? I was born in New Jersey (now British territory), but currently live in Easterny.

Oh that's simple! For anyone born in any former part of the US while it was still part of the US and now lives within the new US border all they need to be re-naturalized is:
Produce your original birth certificate, and 5 affidavits, signed and notarized, stating that you are of good character.
Have a fingerprint and background check done.
Fill in all 100 pages of form 32938403-B in triplicate.
Find a US citizen willing to sponser you.
And wear a scarlet "A" (for alien) on your forehead for the five year Probation period.

This is of course if you moved from the former US territory before the change was made. If you moved afterward, it is quite a bit more complicated.

 

[Janus]

Maybe we should have thought out New Mexico better. Perhaps we could have just renamed it so that we didn't have to give it away?

I think at this point we'll just have to broker a deal. We'll take Alberta, but cede it to Mexico in trade for the former state of New Mexico, but with the provision that we get to keep the use of the name. We then re-name the Re-acquired land "Alberta" and merge it into Mountainia.

 

[mattmns]

I think at this point we'll just have to broker a deal. We'll take Alberta, but cede it to Mexico in trade for the former state of New Mexico, but with the provision that we get to keep the use of the name. We then re-name the Re-acquired land "Alberta" and merge it into Mountainia.

So what does this mean for me, living in New Mexico? I am now a citizen, or do I have to do something similar?

 

[wasteofo2]

You know, after looking at the current 4 state map, it seems to me that those huge states might be hard to govern.

Perhaps we should look into dividing the states up into smaller sections, so as to make them more managable? Or maybe we should just institute regional dictatorships instead of worrying about how to represent such huge areas fairly.

 

[Smurf]

I think at this point we'll just have to broker a deal. We'll take Alberta, but cede it to Mexico in trade for the former state of New Mexico, but with the provision that we get to keep the use of the name. We then re-name the Re-acquired land "Alberta" and merge it into Mountainia.

BRILLIANT!

 

[motai]

I think at this point we'll just have to broker a deal. We'll take Alberta, but cede it to Mexico in trade for the former state of New Mexico, but with the provision that we get to keep the use of the name. We then re-name the Re-acquired land "Alberta" and merge it into Mountainia.

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mattmns: Since the new trade, you are still a U.S. Citizen. But instead of living in New Mexico, the land that you now live on is "Alberta."

 

[Moonbear]

I like that you named Alaska "Eh?"

Glad I moved before the changes took place; I wouldn't want to have to go through an even more complicated process of renaturalization!

I think Canada needs more reorganization too. They're messing up the whole plan. Just divide Ontario between Manitoba and Quebec so we can put the border in line with the border between Easterny and Centralis. (I always laugh at the territory named "Nunavut"...I always read it "None of it." )

 

[Evo]

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mattmns: Since the new trade, you are still a U.S. Citizen. But instead of living in New Mexico, the land that you now live on is "Alberta."

Oh dear, oh my! I'm choking!

That's BRILLIANT!

Motai, you're a gem, and Janus too.

 

[motai]

I like that you named Alaska "Eh?"

Glad I moved before the changes took place; I wouldn't want to have to go through an even more complicated process of renaturalization!

I think Canada needs more reorganization too. They're messing up the whole plan. Just divide Ontario between Manitoba and Quebec so we can put the border in line with the border between Easterny and Centralis. (I always laugh at the territory named "Nunavut"...I always read it "None of it." )

Done .

Oh, since the province of "British Columbia" obviously didn't fit well with Canada, it is now administered by the United Kingdom. I also cut off a slight amount of Canada and gave it to Centralis to maintain the 49th parallel.

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[Evo]

I wonder how the UK feels about bordering Mexico?

 

[Smurf]

Unacceptable. I don't want to be british.

 

[motai]

Unacceptable. I don't want to be british.

But you live in British Columbia. Therefore, you are British.

 

[Evo]

Unacceptable. I don't want to be british.

Look on the bright side...you're not Mexican.

(not that's there is anything wrong with being Mexican) El Smurfo

 

[Moonbear]

(not that's there is anything wrong with being Mexican)

It might be a problem if you don't speak Spanish. Hey, Smurf, would you rather be British or American?

 

[Smurf]

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Changes:
-British Columbia ceded from Britain and renamed.
-Prairies clumped together
-Territories clumped together
-Maritimes clumped together
-A province of Ontario carved out of Prairies and Quebec so the English speakers don't have to be governed by a French Majority Tyrrany.
-Greenland renamed more appropriately

 

[Evo]

Oh, now I'll go for that, it looks nice.

Autonomous Collective of Eastern Canada...aka SMURFLAND?

 

[Moonbear]

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Changes:
-British Columbia ceded from Britain and renamed.
-Prairies clumped together
-Territories clumped together
-Maritimes clumped together
-A province of Ontario carved out of Prairies and Quebec so the English speakers don't have to be governed by a French Majority Tyrrany.
-Greenland renamed more appropriately

Yeah, but now you've got a North Easterny and a South Easterny. Besides the fact that they look more like an East Easterny and West Easterny, we started all this to get rid of those pesky North/South states. We'll just have to merge all of Easterny together and make it part of the US (we've already given enough away, we're claiming something back now).

 

[Cosmo16]

WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO MAKE ME BRITISH? I hate TEA! Actually the better word would be I DETEST tea, can't stand it. I am going to start a revolution! I will make the State of Din! muhahahahahaha

 

[Smurf]

You know what, while we're at it let's just Merge all of Latin America and give it back to spain. Simplifies things nicely. In exchange we'll get spain to declare war on the UK so we can take back those eastern states you carelessly gave away and join them with Easterny.

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edit: Hey I just realized Canada doesn't have any good ports on either of the oceans.

 

[wasteofo2]

Can the U.S. just annex Chihuahua and rename the whole Chihuahua/Alberta region Chihuahua? That'd be much cooler...

 

[Math Is Hard]

I'm confused. How many presidents of the U.S. do we have now?

 

[Janus]

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Changes:
-British Columbia ceded from Britain and renamed.

Unfortunately, this newly formed country didn't last long, as their name led them to believe that they were on the East coast and they ended up grounding their Navy on the Mexican border and drowning their army when they marched them into the Pacific Ocean in an attempt to expand their borders.

 

[Moonbear]

Unfortunately, this newly formed country didn't last long, as their name led them to believe that they were on the East coast and they ended up grounding their Navy on the Mexican border and drowning their army when they marched them into the Pacific Ocean in an attempt to expand their borders.

I didn't even catch that he called it "Eastern." He should have just stuck with Smurfland. Well, I guess that's why those tiny blue dictators haven't managed to take over much more than mushroom patches.

 

[Smurf]

I knew I missed something... I'll fix it after class

 

[Danger]

Hey guys, while we're at it can Canada cede Alberta to you, in exchange for Alaska of course.

Wait just one second here!

The only way that we'll take Alberta is if we can shift it down to fill in that ugly gap made by giving up New Mexico!

Are you nuts?! Then when BC falls into the ocean along with California, Saskatchewan will be our west coast!

Produce your original birth certificate, and 5 affidavits, signed and notarized, stating that you are of good character.

Of course, pretending to be of good character would preclude her from ever visiting PF again.

How many presidents of the U.S. do we have now?

None, just like before we started this nonsense.

 

[Moonbear]

Of course, pretending to be of good character would preclude her from ever visiting PF again.

Nah, I just need to make five new friends and get them to sign that before they realize my true character.

 

[Danger]

If you can stay off of here long enough to make any...

 

[Janus]

To continue from where we left off...

After the debacle of the former British Columbia's attempt at self-government, Something else had to be done, the two choices were to rejoin the UK or be absorbed into Mexico. That is until clever PR program by the country Columbia, pointing out that it was called British Columbia swayed the populace to Vote to join this Country (remember, these were the same people that thought East was West). All that is except Vancouver Island which decided to return to UK rule.

Also, the French sector of Canada decided to go all the way and just become a part of France

In a surprise move, Russia invoked, a little known "buy back" clause in the original purchase Contract. After a brief battle int he international courts, the ceding of Alaska to Canade was voided and Alaska reverted to Russia.

The Four States of the US found it too hard to govern such large areas, so it was decided to break them back up, this time along the lines of a latitude.
certain states kept the time Zone Names, while the others adpted new ones.

some reasonings behind the new names:
The Northwest corner state encompassed what used to be the Oregon Territory, so it was decided to go back to this. However, tired of everyone else pronouncing the name wrong (or-a-gone), they decided on a more phonetic spelling.

Arakis was the Desert planet from Dune.

Fridgeria was the Frozen Moon of Mongo from Flash Gordon.

Mordor was chosen so that they could rename the super volcano known as the Yellowstone Plateau as Mount Doom.

The former New England states, tired of being a political Football, (US, UK, US), broke off and formed a separate country, Yanksland.

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