Is ln(x)3 the Same as [ln(x)]3? Decoding Logarithm Notation

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of logarithmic notation, specifically whether ln(x)3 is equivalent to [ln(x)]3. Participants are exploring the implications of notation in the context of natural logarithms and how it relates to exponent rules.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the difference between ln(x)3 and [ln(x)]3, questioning how the notation affects the application of logarithmic laws. There is also mention of comparing this to similar notational conventions in trigonometric functions.

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Some participants have provided examples to illustrate the differences in notation and the application of logarithmic properties. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express these concepts clearly, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note that the lack of parentheses can lead to confusion in interpreting logarithmic expressions, highlighting the importance of clarity in mathematical notation.

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Homework Statement


is ln(x)3 the same as saying [ln(x)]3? Also, if there is a difference, which one applies to the exponent being moved into the front of the logarithm as in 3ln(x)?


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natural logarithms


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I just got tripped up on the notation. Normally I see logarithms written as ln(x)3, but when I saw this, I wasn't quite sure if it was the same or not. I wasn't too sure if it was like sin2(x) and [sin(x)]2.
 
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Yes, ln(x)^3 means (ln(x))^3 as opposed to ln(x^3). (The second form, with parentheses, is preferable as it is clearer.) It is the latter to which we can apply the "law of logarithms": ln(x^3)= 3ln(x).

Look at a numerical example: ln(2)= 0.6931, approximately, so (ln(2))^3= 0.3330 while ln(2^3)= ln(8)= 2.0794= 3ln(2).
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Yes, ln(x)^3 means (ln(x))^2 as opposed to ln(x^3). (The second form, with parentheses, is preferable as it is clearer.) It is the latter to which we can apply the "law of logarithms": ln(x^3)= 3ln(x).

Look at a numerical example: ln(2)= 0.6931, approximately, so (ln(2))^3= 0.3330 while ln(2^3)= ln(8)= 2.0794= 3ln(2).

Ah, thank you for the great explanation.
 
Be aware that you'll also see abbreviated notations without the brackets. Like,

\log x^2 = \log(x^2)

and

\log^2 x = ( \log(x) )^2

This type of notation is frequently used with trig functions too.
 
uart said:
Be aware that you'll also see abbreviated notations without the brackets. Like,

\log x^2 = \log(x^2)

and

\log^2 x = ( \log(x) )^2

This type of notation is frequently used with trig functions too.

ah thank you for further clarifying!
 

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