Is Love Truly Transient and Subjective?

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The discussion explores the nature of love, questioning whether it can exist for one person without simultaneously being absent for another. It suggests that love may often be confused with desire, comfort, or self-centeredness, indicating that true love should not be transactional or based on personal gain. Love is characterized as a value that must be understood and appreciated, rather than a mere emotional response or psychological need. The conversation emphasizes that genuine love is unconditional and cannot coexist with hatred or prejudice. Ultimately, love is portrayed as a pure expression that transcends personal desires and expectations, requiring self-love as a foundation for loving others.
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Those who believe pleasure can be obtained by inflicting pain should stick to the practice of inflicting pain upon themselves. I encourage those who believe they can help by hurting to help themselves to all the hurt they can lavish upon themselves.
It is not that you are; it is what you are that counts. It is not because love exists; it is why and how it exists that defines it quality.
Only after understanding the meaning and value of love do we find reason to do what we must to be worthy of love. The value of love that we seek is determined by how well we understand it and is limited only by how well we achieve that understanding. Love cannot be borrowed or stolen; love is made. You can not give what you do not possess. The potential to have something must be realized by getting it. Value can not be taken from the unwilling, value is earned and once earned, deserved. Love is both the reason and the reward for becoming the best that we can be.
 
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Dmstifik8ion said:
Love cannot be borrowed or stolen; love is made. You can not give what you do not possess.

if Love is not for the Whole, is it not a prejudice for some part? (very simple question, needing very simple answer.)

can Love be prejudice? Exclusion? increasing seperation?

or, is love uniting? is it inclusive? accepting?

i think that is it obvious that the former are qualities of Ignorance, while the latter are qualities of Love. (Love does not say, "you are not worthy of respect and care.". rather, it acknowledges, "yes, you are worthy and cared for.") this is plain and simple.

finally, can one claim to have/be Love, at all, if their "love" is, at the same time as "loving", shunning and seperative? isn't that one disrespecting and not caring for. Love is not this way.

all action and desire is two-fold. EXCEPT for Love. Love is always, only what Love is. It is never, at the same time, hatred or prejudice. do you make sense of this?

i know that the concept is very high and one can not easily ascend to such heights, but it must be evaluated.

to "love" one thing/person and not another is really to avoid/ exclude some other thing. Love is not a business. it is not a system of gain and loss. it is always full, no matter how much is taken from it. see?

you don't. it's not a matter of knowing, but of seeing. don't try to "out-know". this matter is concluded. those who can see, have seen. those who are stubborn are pleased to remain ignorant.

this is not a competition. competition is immaturity. Love is maturity.
 

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