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- Could anyone advise if my understanding of this is basically correct? That on a quantum physicis scale, measurement or observation is equall to interaction. Please settle a friendly debate between coworkers.

Greeting all!

So I apologize if this has been explained to death and if so, please advise as I do not want to clog up the forums with the same questions over and over.

A little background first, a coworker and I routinely talk about astrophysics and quantum mechanics( yes, somewhere out there, two cops are parked side by side arguing and debating their understanding of astrophysics and quantum mechanics and theory, believe it or not, it's a beautiful world we live in isn't it!).

So, I have no classical education and am a lowly cop with an average intellect.

There is not choice under prefixes for Associates Degree( yes I know, it's sad, still working on my Bachelors, so I chose undergraduate degree but I still feel that you all should know I do not have a 4 year degree)

So please have patience and know that I am very thankful for any guidance any of you can provide.

On a quantum scale ( not sure of how you all speak about these things so I mean on the scale of quantum experiments, particles, wave functions ect), I understand the idea of a wave function being just that, until observed. When observed it appears to be a particle.

Now I know this has nothing to do with a "conscious observer" like most people peddling "wooo" would have people believe.

My question is, that at those scales, to observe anything experimentally would most likely involve bouncing some form of light or radiation (basically something from the e.m. spectrum) off of the wave function. This is then detected by some device to produce a readout or observable value.

Is this correct?

To lay persons like me, the concept of something appearing like a particle when observed is easily understood because one has to interact with the wave function.

I imagine it like dropping a pebble into a lake. The lake is the wave function, and when you throw a pebble into it( the pebble being a particle of light sent to detect somthing and provide observational information) then a point is produced where the pebble struck the water, appearing to be the particle.

I know that is extremely oversimplified and I apologize if I have this all wrong.

Are the only ways to observe somthing experimentally in quantum physics equall to interacting with the object or wave?

Any help with this would be appreciated. Thank you so much and I am loving the threads and ideas in this forum, even if most are over my head, it's still fun to think about and expand my kowledge.

-Hoyt

So I apologize if this has been explained to death and if so, please advise as I do not want to clog up the forums with the same questions over and over.

A little background first, a coworker and I routinely talk about astrophysics and quantum mechanics( yes, somewhere out there, two cops are parked side by side arguing and debating their understanding of astrophysics and quantum mechanics and theory, believe it or not, it's a beautiful world we live in isn't it!).

So, I have no classical education and am a lowly cop with an average intellect.

There is not choice under prefixes for Associates Degree( yes I know, it's sad, still working on my Bachelors, so I chose undergraduate degree but I still feel that you all should know I do not have a 4 year degree)

So please have patience and know that I am very thankful for any guidance any of you can provide.

On a quantum scale ( not sure of how you all speak about these things so I mean on the scale of quantum experiments, particles, wave functions ect), I understand the idea of a wave function being just that, until observed. When observed it appears to be a particle.

Now I know this has nothing to do with a "conscious observer" like most people peddling "wooo" would have people believe.

My question is, that at those scales, to observe anything experimentally would most likely involve bouncing some form of light or radiation (basically something from the e.m. spectrum) off of the wave function. This is then detected by some device to produce a readout or observable value.

Is this correct?

To lay persons like me, the concept of something appearing like a particle when observed is easily understood because one has to interact with the wave function.

I imagine it like dropping a pebble into a lake. The lake is the wave function, and when you throw a pebble into it( the pebble being a particle of light sent to detect somthing and provide observational information) then a point is produced where the pebble struck the water, appearing to be the particle.

I know that is extremely oversimplified and I apologize if I have this all wrong.

Are the only ways to observe somthing experimentally in quantum physics equall to interacting with the object or wave?

Any help with this would be appreciated. Thank you so much and I am loving the threads and ideas in this forum, even if most are over my head, it's still fun to think about and expand my kowledge.

-Hoyt