Is Majoring in Applied Math and Physics Worth Pursuing?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of majoring in both applied mathematics and physics, particularly in the context of pursuing graduate studies in these fields. Participants explore the academic paths, potential overlaps, and distinctions between applied mathematics and mathematical physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in majoring in applied mathematics and physics, questioning whether it is manageable alongside graduate studies.
  • Another participant suggests that achieving a high GPA while pursuing both majors is possible, citing examples of PhD work that integrates both fields.
  • A claim is made that a PhD in mathematical physics effectively combines both disciplines, though it is noted that not many pursue this path.
  • Concerns are raised about the distinction between mathematical physicists and applied mathematicians, with some arguing that their focuses can be quite different depending on their research areas.
  • Discussion includes the educational requirements for a PhD in mathematical physics, emphasizing a heavy emphasis on physics courses.
  • A question is posed regarding the professional roles of mathematical physicists compared to mathematicians and physicists, seeking clarity on their distinct contributions.
  • Another participant notes that the term "mathematical physicist" can be ambiguous, suggesting it may refer interchangeably to either mathematicians or physicists depending on context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the integration of applied mathematics and physics, with some supporting the idea of pursuing both while others highlight the distinctions between the fields. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of roles and the feasibility of dual majors.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific academic requirements and potential career paths, but there is no consensus on the implications of pursuing both fields or the nature of mathematical physics as a discipline.

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Hi I am currently in high school (sophmore) and am interested in doing applied maths and physics. I am currently on Calc III and Vibrations and Waves, I will get to Diff Eqs, Linear Algebra, and Quantum Mechanics next semester. The projected classes I will have completed by graduation are:

Math
All the elementary math classes before calc
Calc I, II, III
Diff Eqs
Linear Algebra
Analysis I, II
Real Analysis
Abstract Algebra

Physics
Classical Mechanics
E & M
Vibrations and Waves
Quantum Mechanics I, II, III

My question is would it be too much to major in applied math and physics and obtain a major in both and would it be recommended to go to graduate school for both?
 
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You can get a 4.0 doing both, people do it all the time. Nobody technically goes to graduate school doing both as far as I know, but if you get a PhD in the applied math department studying solutions to the wave equation, you're "doing both" in a sense, or if you get a PhD in physics working on more efficient solvent models/algorithms for solving the Poison-Boltzmann equation in soft matter simulations, you're clearly doing both.
 
Well, a PhD in mathematical physics is essentially both. Not that many people do it.
 
I think most mathematical physicists are mathematicians who work on mathematics that spins out of physics, which is a very different field.

If you are an applied mathematician working on fluid mechanics, you're very different from a mathematical physicist and more like an actual physicist, assuming you're working on fluid mechanics simulation packages and not, say, attempting to prove things about the Navier Stokes equation solution smoothness.
 
I think most mathematical physicists are mathematicians who work on mathematics that spins out of physics, which is a very different field.
If you are an applied mathematician working on fluid mechanics, you're very different from a mathematical physicist and more like an actual physicist, assuming you're working on fluid mechanics simulation packages and not, say, attempting to prove things about the Navier Stokes equation solution smoothness.

Some mathematical physicists have PhDs in math. Others specifically have a PhD in mathematical physics, as in, that is the name of their degree. A program like that will usually require a ton of physics graduate classes and a ton of math classes. Here's an example:

"Basic preparation should include courses in advanced calculus, linear algebra, modern algebra, complex variables, classical mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, modern physics, thermodynamics, and statistical mechanics. Knowledge of the following fields is desirable: real analysis, differential equations, probability, topology, differential geometry, and functional analysis."

So, those are people who go to grad school to more or less do both, with the priority actually being on physics, if you notice how it's worded. Again, not very many people do it, but it is possible.
 
What would a mathematical physicist do as a living that would be different that just a mathematician or just a physicist?
 
A mathematical physicist could be either a mathematician or a physicist. A few manage to do both at a high level, but very few these days. You shouldn't take the term mathematical physicist very seriously. It could be just another word for physicist or just another word for mathematician, depending on who you're talking about.
 

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