Is Matter Re-Emitted After Absorption by a Black Hole?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of matter being re-emitted after absorption by a black hole, exploring the implications of this idea on our understanding of physics, particularly in relation to quantum mechanics and the nature of time within an event horizon.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that matter absorbed by a black hole is distributed throughout a chaotic quantum plane and can be re-emitted when certain energy conditions are met.
  • This participant suggests that the re-emission process could lead to the creation of new bodies in the universe, influenced by the interactions of energy peaks.
  • Another participant states that time inside an event horizon is irrelevant to external observers, implying a disconnect between internal and external perceptions of time.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of experimental evidence in evaluating theories, noting that many theories may sound plausible until proven otherwise through testing.
  • This participant references historical context, mentioning Einstein's journey with general relativity and the necessity of experimental validation for theoretical acceptance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and implications of the proposed idea regarding matter re-emission. While some engage with the concept, others highlight the need for experimental evidence to support such theories, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of time and energy interactions within black holes, as well as the challenges of testing theoretical claims against experimental evidence, which remain unresolved.

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I wonder if anyone has heard of this new (perhaps decades old?) idea I stumbled on. The matter that falls into an event horizon is quickly absorbed. Everyone knows that. But the key difference is what happens later.

Underneath the energy barrier, the matter that is consummed is distributed throughout the plane. In the moment it is brought below, a crest forms that expands over the expanse. The quantum plane is chaotic, with countless peaks of energy bustling and jostling about. When the crest meets one of these peaks and the amplitudes combine to be greater than Planck's constant, it is re-emitted into the universe at a location which resembles randomness. It seems random, since whereabouts from an observer's stance is completely obscured.

Expanding this idea back to the early moments of the universe, if two peaks simultaneously combined (since crests are impossible without energy transferring in), an initial thrust of matter would be created into the void. This thrust is equal in magnitude to its momentum. With a direction, the gas travels unhindered until encountering another object with comparable mass. Below, the expulsion has created a crest which can meet with other peaks to continue the process. If the combined energy is not greater than h, the wave moves over the disturbance. If two nebulas are on a collision course from far away, it will then be their momentum that brings them together in a sufficiently populated region.

The 'noise' therefore echoed throughout is the constant creation of new bodies with varying degrees of velocity and direction. This doesn't seem hard for me to believe in light of certain quantum perculiarities, like flux. The marvelous thing about this is how red-shifts are perfectly situated, matter has a natural course of starting, and energy transfer is described through ordinary means, such as wave velocity. Has anyone else heard of this before? I hope I don't sound nuts or crackpot-ish.
 
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Time 'inside' an event horizon is irrelevant to an external observer.
 
Thank you, Chronos. I am naively familiar with that idea. I was trying to describe many events that are a part of time dependence and transcend it. I guess I did it poorly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but time has no observational importance below h and faster than c. To a particle for all practical purposes, it is ignorant of its own half-life. When the matter enters the horizon, what knowledge it possessed is obliviated. It rejoins its ancestors in the energy plane and is re-emitted when another event compelling enough to overcome the resistive barrier happens.
 
The problem with theories is that many sound just fine...until experimental evidence proves them otherwise and they fall by the wayside. I'm not saying the one you describe is right or wrong just that unless it provides some testable predictions which other theories do not, there is really no way to evaluate it...

Even Einstein with general relativity had several different gravitational formulations...he did not know which was correct because the slight differences could not be tested experimentally at the time...he finally realized "equivalence" between acceleration and gravity and that give him the insights necessary to proclaim a winner among his own field theories...his general theory we now all recognize...but even then until the deflection of light by the sun was experimentally verified there was initially a more popular competing theory...Einstein was vindicated by experiment.
 

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