Is meshless modeling truly meshless or just hiding mesh generation?

[meandcfd]

TL;DR

Looking for insight on meshless FEA

Anybody have experience with it? Is it really meshless or just hiding a mesh generation?

 

[berkeman]

Welcome to the PF.

Interesting, I hadn't heard of that before...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meshfree_methods

 

[meandcfd]

thanks. yes I had seen all that in the Wikipedia. but I think there is talk about meshless that really is just a simplied mesh that you can't alter underneath. Ansys Discovery live says it's meshless but it is really? This one I don't now about:
https://enginsoftusa.com/meshless-FEA-SimSolid.html
Or this one
http://www.femcomp.se/midas-meshfree-comprehensive-design-tool.html