Is Modern TV Promoting Over-Sexualization to Children?

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The discussion highlights concerns about the increasing sexualization of media aimed at children, particularly through platforms like MTV and performances by groups like the Pussycat Dolls. Participants express discomfort with explicit themes and the objectification of women, arguing that such content is inappropriate for young audiences. There is a call for responsible parenting, emphasizing the importance of monitoring what children are exposed to on television. Some argue that while nudity itself isn't harmful, the context in which it is presented can be detrimental. Overall, there is a consensus that the current media landscape poses challenges for raising children with healthy role models.
  • #51
jreelawg said:
No wonder so many young people are bipolar.

Wait, are you actually saying that music causes Bipolar Disorder? That music gives you a fundamental imbalance in the chemicals in your brain?

They first chant to mantra of piss on me I'm a whore, and then they chant to the mantra of I'm a special person who deserves someone who really loves me for who I am.

And kids are so stupid they just listen to everything they're told?

It is somehow cool now days to not care about yourself or others.

It's always been "cool" to be a total jerk and prick. The only difference is the definitions of what those are have changed.
Here, have some more lyrics. I listen to these songs, by the way.

Megadeth said:
Good Mourning.

Hey, I don't feel so good.
Something's not right,
Something's coming over me
What the **** is this?
AAaaaaahhhh!Killer, intruder, homicidal man.
If you see me coming, run as fast as you can.
A blood thirsty demon who's stalking the street.
I hack up my victims like pieces of meat.
Blood thirsty demon, sinister fiend,
Bludgeonous slaughters, my evil deeds.

My hammer's a cold piece of blood-lethal steel.
I grin while you writhe with the pain that I deal.
Swinging the hammer, I hack through their heads,
Deviant defilers, you're next to be dead.
I unleash my hammer with sadistic intent.
Pounding, surrounding, slamming through your head. Yeah...

Their bodies convulse, in agony, and, pain.
I mangle their faces, till no features remain.
A blade for the butchering, I cut them to shreds.
First take out the organs, then cut off the head.
The remains of flesh now sop under my feet.
One more bloody massacre, the murders' complete.
I seek to dismember, a sadist fiend.
A blood bath's my way of getting clean.
I lurk in the alleys, wait for the kill.
I have no remorse for the blood that I spill
A merciless butcher who lives underground.
I'm out to destroy you and ,I will, cut you down.
I see you, and, I'm waiting ,for Black Friday.

Killer, intruder, homicidal man.
If you see me coming, run as fast as you can.
A blood thirsty demon who's stalking the street.
I hack up my victims like pieces of meat.
I lurk in the alleys, wait for the kill.
I have no remorse for the blood that I spill
A merciless butcher who lives underground.
I'm out to destroy you and ,I will, cut you down.

It's Black Friday, paint the devil on the wall.

Megadeth has sold millions of albums. How many people do you know that do any of the things in that song? Because I don't, and that song is actually fairly tame compared to some other bands.
 
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  • #52
WarPhalange said:
Wait, are you actually saying that music causes Bipolar Disorder? That music gives you a fundamental imbalance in the chemicals in your brain?
And kids are so stupid they just listen to everything they're told?
It's always been "cool" to be a total jerk and prick. The only difference is the definitions of what those are have changed.
Here, have some more lyrics. I listen to these songs, by the way.
Megadeth has sold millions of albums. How many people do you know that do any of the things in that song? Because I don't, and that song is actually fairly tame compared to some other bands.

I played drums to megadeath when I was in third grade. I didn't know what they were saying. I think that reading lyrics and hearing them in a song are two different things. When you read, your brain is in a different state of mind where you are focused and can rationalize what you read. When you are listening to music, it is much more passive, bypassing your focused critique.

Never the less, I think what is happening now days is different because of the level of sophistication. Producers have learned to press our subconscious buttons. They have learned to set trends in sophisticated ways extorting our weaknesses to make their money.
 
  • #53
It was about 1976, my new wife and I were heading over to campus to watch the soft core movie, Emmanuelle. To our surprise, and disappointment. the movie at been canceled due to its sexually explicit nature. In its place was the Clint Eastwood classic, Dirty Harry. So while it is fine to watch murder and mayhem it is not ok to watch love making. What is wrong with this picture?
 
  • #54
WarPhalange said:
Wait, are you actually saying that music causes Bipolar Disorder? That music gives you a fundamental imbalance in the chemicals in your brain?

Yes music affects your chemicals, everything does, everything you see, hear, touch, smell, etc, causes a chemical reaction in the brain. And yes an unhealthy balance of contradictory attitudes does lead to an imbalance.

But I think a misconception is that our brains primarily operate on chemicals, our brain activity is the result of neurons firing(electrical charge). Chemicals only have effects on how they fire. More is to do with how our circuits develop determining what happens when they fire.

Diagnosis of bipolar disorder

"Diagnosis is based on the self-reported experiences of an individual as well as abnormalities in behavior reported by family members, friends or co-workers, followed by secondary signs observed by a psychiatrist, nurse, social worker, clinical psychologist or other clinician in a clinical assessment."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder#Diagnosis
 
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  • #55
Integral said:
It was about 1976, my new wife and I were heading over to campus to watch the soft core movie, Emmanuelle. To our surprise, and disappointment. the movie at been canceled due to its sexually explicit nature. In its place was the Clint Eastwood classic, Dirty Harry. So while it is fine to watch murder and mayhem it is not ok to watch love making. What is wrong with this picture?

If it would have been High Plains Drifter, you would have gotten a little bit of each.
 
  • #56
jreelawg said:
I played drums to megadeath when I was in third grade. I didn't know what they were saying. I think that reading lyrics and hearing them in a song are two different things. When you read, your brain is in a different state of mind where you are focused and can rationalize what you read. When you are listening to music, it is much more passive, bypassing your focused critique.

Never the less, I think what is happening now days is different because of the level of sophistication. Producers have learned to press our subconscious buttons. They have learned to set trends in sophisticated ways extorting our weaknesses to make their money.

Oh I see, because you were doing it, then it's okay and there is some very vague excuse for it. But today, today! things are different! Things are worse, because you can somehow understand the lyrics when they rap really fast?

Besides, CD's come with liner notes that have the lyrics on them. Yeah, Megadeth was before that, but it doesn't matter because today's bands have similar lyrics and their CD's come with liner notes.

jreelawg said:
Yes music affects your chemicals, everything does, everything you see, hear, touch, smell, etc, causes a chemical reaction in the brain. And yes an unhealthy balance of contradictory attitudes does lead to an imbalance.

You have no idea what Bipolar Disorder is, do you?
 
  • #57
Integral said:
It was about 1976, my new wife and I were heading over to campus to watch the soft core movie, Emmanuelle. To our surprise, and disappointment. the movie at been canceled due to its sexually explicit nature. In its place was the Clint Eastwood classic, Dirty Harry. So while it is fine to watch murder and mayhem it is not ok to watch love making. What is wrong with this picture?

You may have lucked out because I saw that movie on HBO, and it is totally lame.
 
  • #58
Blind Lemon Jefferson:



Blind Lemon Jefferson said:
I ain't got no mama now
I ain't got no mama now
She told me late last night, "You don't need no mama no how"

Mmm, mmm, black snake crawlin' in my room
Mmm, mmm, black snake crawlin' in my room
Some pretty mama better come and get this black snake soon

Ohh-oh, that must have been a bed bug, baby a chinch can't bite that hard
Ohh-oh, that must have been a bed bug, honey a chinch can't bite that hard
Ask my sugar for fifty cents, she said "Lemon, ain't a child in the yard"

Mama, that's all right, mama that's all right for you
Mama, that's all right, mama that's all right for you
Mama, that's all right, most seen all you do

Mmm, mmm, what's the matter now?
Mmm, mmm, honey what's the matter now?
Sugar, what's the matter, don't like no black snake no how

Mmm, mmm, wonder where my black snake gone?
Mmm, mmm, wonder where this black snake gone?
Black snake mama done run my darlin' home

I presume you can figure out what "black snake" he is talking about.
 
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  • #59
WarPhalange said:
Oh I see, because you were doing it, then it's okay and there is some very vague excuse for it. But today, today! things are different! Things are worse, because you can somehow understand the lyrics when they rap really fast?

Besides, CD's come with liner notes that have the lyrics on them. Yeah, Megadeth was before that, but it doesn't matter because today's bands have similar lyrics and their CD's come with liner notes.



You have no idea what Bipolar Disorder is, do you?

No one knows what bipolar disorder is, it just means you have mood swings. And I never said you were guilty. It is the peddler who are guilty. Blame the drug dealer not the junky.
 
  • #60
WarPhalange said:
I presume you can figure out what "black snake" he is talking about.

You lost me, could you explain what you are trying to convey?
 
  • #61
I think TV needs to go back to the way it was several years ago. Like to have "Leave it to Beaver", "I Love Lucy!", and a few of the others. I loved those shows.
 
  • #62
jreelawg said:
No one knows what bipolar disorder is, it just means you have mood swings.

No, you don't know what Bipolar is. The definition is pretty clear:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder#Signs_and_symptoms

This condition has to be debilitating. This isn't "Yesterday I was sad because my friend called me a bad name but today I am happy because I had pancakes for breakfast."

jreelawg said:
You lost me,

Yeah I realized that.

could you explain what you are trying to convey?

Blind Lemon Jefferson was singing about his penis as early as 1920.

mcknia07 said:
I think TV needs to go back to the way it was several years ago. Like to have "Leave it to Beaver", "I Love Lucy!", and a few of the others. I loved those shows.

Don't forget Thundercats!
 
  • #63
mcknia07 said:
I think TV needs to go back to the way it was several years ago. Like to have "Leave it to Beaver", "I Love Lucy!", and a few of the others. I loved those shows.

I don't know about that. They were good shows for its time, but they would be absolutely stupid and corny by todays standards. I think there are plenty of good shows out there that are adult. And they would be better if they had cursing and nudity in them. One show that would benifit from both is Law and Order.

If they were able to have cursing in there and nudity and shots of dead naked people, it would make the show that much more amazing. There are lots of good, serious, shows that would benifit BIG TIME from having cursing and nudity.
 
  • #64
Cyrus said:
I don't know about that. They were good shows for its time, but they would be absolutely stupid and corny by todays standards. I think there are plenty of good shows out there that are adult. And they would be better if they had cursing and nudity in them. One show that would benifit from both is Law and Order.

If they were able to have cursing in there and nudity and shots of dead naked people, it would make the show that much more amazing. There are lots of good, serious, shows that would benifit BIG TIME from having cursing and nudity.


They should also randomly cut into scenes of the people in the entire courtroom dancing at a rave in their business suits.
 
  • #65
Law & Order is fine just the way it is. No need to make it have more cussing or nudity, that would only make it worse, I think.
 
  • #66
WarPhalange said:
Don't forget Thundercats!

I've never even heard of Thundercats, what was that?
 
  • #67
mcknia07 said:
Law & Order is fine just the way it is. No need to make it have more cussing or nudity, that would only make it worse, I think.

What do you mean, 'no need to have more cursing or nudity'. It doesn't have any cursing or nudity. It should have it. Its an adult show. Please explain in what way it would make it worse.
 
  • #68
mcknia07 said:
I've never even heard of Thundercats, what was that?



Cyrus said:
What do you mean, 'no need to have more cursing or nudity'. It doesn't have any cursing or nudity. It should have it. Its an adult show. Please explain in what way it would make it worse.

Well, currently the show is split half and half for the police portion and then the court portion. The nudity and more violence would detract from depicting how law enforcement and prosecutors do their jobs.

CSI would be a good candidate for eye candy, because it's so over-the-top already.
 
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  • #69
Cyrus said:
What do you mean, 'no need to have more cursing or nudity'. It doesn't have any cursing or nudity. It should have it. Its an adult show. Please explain in what way it would make it worse.

It does have some cussing, and I know there is no nudity in it. Just saying it would take a good adult and ruin it. I don't like to hear cussing or see those kinds of things. It makes the good shows go bad! Some of us don't want to see nakedness or hear cursing, lol.
 
  • #70
mcknia07 said:
It does have some cussing, and I know there is no nudity in it. Just saying it would take a good adult and ruin it. I don't like to hear cussing or see those kinds of things. It makes the good shows go bad! Some of us don't want to see nakedness or hear cursing, lol.

Um...okay.

Last time I checked they can't say the F word or any other serious curse words. We agree there is no nudity. So as it stands there aint none of it.

I want to see a dead body of a naked woman that was killed and the cops and the suspect cursing at each other in the police interview. I want a serious show, for adults. Something you would find in the movies.
 
  • #71
WarPhalange said:
Well, currently the show is split half and half for the police portion and then the court portion. The nudity and more violence would detract from depicting how law enforcement and prosecutors do their jobs.

You don't think suspects curse in courtrooms at judges and witnesses? You don't think they curse at the police when in custody?

How does nudity and violence detract from depiciting how law enforcement and prosecutors do their jobs. Who said the police and laywers would be cursing all the time? I never said that.
 
  • #72
It's not a problem. Sex is natural.
 
  • #73
Cyrus said:
You don't think suspects curse in courtrooms at judges and witnesses? You don't think they curse at the police when in custody?

I don't think it matters, because it detracts from the substance of the show.

How does nudity and violence detract from depiciting how law enforcement and prosecutors do their jobs. Who said the police and laywers would be cursing all the time? I never said that.

For one the budget of the show. More time is spent on the flashiness and less on the things that matter. Secondly, the point of the show is it doesn't matter what the victim looks like. The show is about how cops figure out who dun it and how prosecutors try to put these guys in jail. Adding violence and nudity would be pointless.

Like I said, add violence and nudity to CSI. It's already borderline on nudity and has plenty of violence, plus it's exactly the kind of show that would benefit from it.

Not Law and Order.
 
  • #74
Cyrus said:
Um...okay.

Last time I checked they can't say the F word or any other serious curse words. We agree there is no nudity. So as it stands there aint none of it.

I want to see a dead body of a naked woman that was killed and the cops and the suspect cursing at each other in the police interview. I want a serious show, for adults. Something you would find in the movies.

I think cussing is cussing. I kinda go back to the way my parents taught me...the smallest cuss word is still bad. (*Um, in the English language "AIN'T" is not a real word*)

So, you would be ok, if a naked man was there lying on the table...why does it have to be a female?? lol
 
  • #75
TV violence is a problem. Sex between consenting adults is not.
 
  • #76
There is Broadcast tv - the biggies (ABC, CBS, NBC) that are very highly censored, and there are the more lax cable only channels that range in what they show from partial to complete nudity and from mild to extremely graphic crime/torture/mutilation scenes, and language.

I don't believe that anyone should dictate what is available to watch, each person can decide for themselves what they care to watch. It's my home, it's my tv, I should have the right to decide what to watch. If I have someone in the house that I don't want to allow to see these shows, I can block the shows. Very easy.

Personally, I would not want a five year old watching "deep throat".

We can use our common sense and personal feelings to block what we don't want to see on our personal tv's. There is no reason that other people should have that choice taken away from them.
 
  • #77
Evo said:
I don't believe that anyone should dictate what is available to watch, each person can decide for themselves what they care to watch. It's my home, it's my tv, I should have the right to decide what to watch.

Not child pornography, but I see what you mean.
 
  • #78
WarPhalange said:
I don't think it matters, because it detracts from the substance of the show.

I don't agree with you.

For one the budget of the show. More time is spent on the flashiness and less on the things that matter.

That's simply your own assumption.

Secondly, the point of the show is it doesn't matter what the victim looks like. The show is about how cops figure out who dun it and how prosecutors try to put these guys in jail. Adding violence and nudity would be pointless.

Have you ever seen an episode of law and order in your life? The show isn't about how cops figure out who did it. It's not like CSI. It is about the criminals and why they did it.
 
  • #79
mcknia07 said:
I think cussing is cussing. I kinda go back to the way my parents taught me...the smallest cuss word is still bad. (*Um, in the English language "AIN'T" is not a real word*)

So, you would be ok, if a naked man was there lying on the table...why does it have to be a female?? lol

'cussing is cussing'. Wow, okay. That's supposed to mean something, I guess. Honestly, you're not five years old my dear. Get used to people cursing. If you think the smallest curse word is bad you've lived a very very sheltered life.

You should watch an episode of the Sopranos. They curse. It's a great show. It has content.

Rescue me, another good show. Almost has cursing in it. Very close. Also great show with story.

To argue cursing takes away from a show or makes the show simply about cursing is total nonsense.
 
  • #80
I've never watched the Sopranos..seems to much like a soap opra to me, I might be wrong. Rescue me, ugh, doesn't really interest me, not too much time for tv either.

Now, I'm not saying that if a show has any cussing in it, I won't watch it. I have learned to tune it all out, but having more, would just ruin it...I mean, what's the point to all the cussing, there is other words that could be used.
 
  • #81
mcknia07 said:
I've never watched the Sopranos..seems to much like a soap opra to me, I might be wrong. Rescue me, ugh, doesn't really interest me, not too much time for tv either.

Now, I'm not saying that if a show has any cussing in it, I won't watch it. I have learned to tune it all out, but having more, would just ruin it...I mean, what's the point to all the cussing, there is other words that could be used.

What's so bad about a curse word? It conveys strong emotion. It has a purpose.

What do you mean by 'all the cursing'.


Haha, you remind me of this clip:



It's sooooo true for this thread.
 
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  • #82
Cyrus said:
I don't agree with you.

You don't say?

That's simply your own assumption.

Yes, and it happens to be correct. Unless the show gets an instant increase in the budget, then they will have to spend time and money on these corpses that would have otherwise been spent on making a good show.

Have you ever seen an episode of law and order in your life? The show isn't about how cops figure out who did it. It's not like CSI. It is about the criminals and why they did it.

The cops go ask witnesses, gather material evidence, and test ideas, slowly building a case. That's figuring out who did it. I don't know what else to say.
 
  • #83
WarPhalange said:
You don't say?

Yes, and it happens to be correct. Unless the show gets an instant increase in the budget, then they will have to spend time and money on these corpses that would have otherwise been spent on making a good show.



The cops go ask witnesses, gather material evidence, and test ideas, slowly building a case. That's figuring out who did it. I don't know what else to say.

Okayyyyyyyyyyy...whatever you say man. Whatever you say. Since you're so aware of the budget of the producers of the show. I'll leave it to your expert knowledge.
 
  • #84
Cyrus said:
What's so bad about a curse word? It conveys strong emotion. It has a purpose.

What do you mean by 'all the cursing'.


Haha, you remind me of this clip:



It's sooooo true for this thread.


Ok...it kinda lost me. What was I susposed to get from it?
 
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  • #85
enough law and order csi talk, let's get back to the porn. personally, i'd like to see a little more porn, here, but i don't think it's going to happen. the reason i don't think it's going to happen is broadcast television. risque stuff on cable and satellite is one of the things hurting broadcasters. they've tried pushing the envelope by showing buttocks and a little side boob in later broadcasts, but the FCC is pushing them back. and so, the broadcasters don't want cable channels (the non-pay channels, at least) doing it either and lobby against it.
 
  • #86
mcknia07 said:
Ok...it kinda lost me. What was I susposed to get from it?

That he doesn't simple go up on stage and start cursing for the sake of cursing. Same as cursing on a show like law and order wouldn't be for the sake of cursing. There is a context, and its perfectly acceptable. You were Bill Cosby. I was Eddie Murphy - Ahuck-huck-huck-huck...:wink:
 
  • #87
So not nice...you were making fun of me, oh wait, that's real life right there!
 
  • #88
mcknia07 said:
So not nice...you were making fun of me, oh wait, that's real life right there!

:confused: I wasnt making fun of you? What are you talking about?
 
  • #89
Cyrus said:
:confused: I wasnt making fun of you? What are you talking about?

I don't know, lol, sorry, I'm like not totally with it. Trying to work on Physics homework when my brain isn't functioning right...yeah not good, but it has to be done. I'm not so great at multi-tasking tonight.
 
  • #90
mcknia07 said:
I don't know, lol, sorry, I'm like not totally with it. Trying to work on Physics homework when my brain isn't functioning right...yeah not good, but it has to be done. I'm not so great at multi-tasking tonight.

It's ok. I still love ya. Flaurin Flaurin Filth!
 
  • #91
Cyrus said:
It's ok. I still love ya. Flaurin Flaurin Filth!

Well that's good. I'm glad I still have someone that still loves me :biggrin: Cyrus has a big crush on me :!) There's no need to hide it now.
 
  • #92
Evo said:
We can use our common sense and personal feelings to block what we don't want to see on our personal tv's. There is no reason that other people should have that choice taken away from them.

But what about the Viagra ads that come on when I want to watch the 6:30 national news with my kids? Do they have TV's that can selectively turn off ads so my sons can get the news without getting these? Are such TV's in my price range ($100 or less)?

I'm sorry, but I think these ads pretty much treat women as sexual objects. Maybe I'm a traditionalist at heart. My husband and I agree that the pervasiveness of this kinds of things this early in the evening with this type of program would shock our parents. Innuendo is one thing, but to blatantly state "Talk to your doctor about your erectile dysfunction and your ability to have sex"?

Late night is one thing... but at 6:30? On public TV? On public TV? What about TRUE working class families, that might have late night jobs and can't as easily regulate the TV as easily? Yeah... my personal approach is to NOT have the TV on (I'll read the papers instead). Even if I'm exhausted I won't resort to turning the TV on to amuse the kids (let them be bored and read)... but some parents will.

One solution... get rid of "public TV." I think the cable companies will eventually succeed in this anyways... which may be good, and may be bad.
 
  • #93
WarPhalange said:
I don't think it matters, because it detracts from the substance of the show.

I agree. Most shows don't have any substance so they have to keep people's interest with sex and violence.

A man and woman groping each other for several minutes occupies time without the writers having to come up with as much dialog. So does panning the camera over a bloody body.

Its a cheap way to avoid needing a good plot with substantial drama. Nothing beats a good old fashioned "sitting on the edge of your chair" drama.
 
  • #94
just get rid of your television, its a waste of time anyways. I don't have one, and every time I watch tv the propaganda gets more and more obvious. My sisters are homeschooled and I recently had to have a very uncomfortable discussion with them. Their friend goes to school and has a boyfriend (they are 11) for whom she is performing oral sex. Apparently this is normal at this age... My sisters were appropriately confused and upset. Needless to say they chose not to spend time with this girl any more, but it disgusts me that I have to discuss this with my little sisters when they are so young. Their television and music is very carefully monitored. They know about sex and babies etc from my parents, but children are definitely growing up too young these days.
 
  • #95
physics girl phd said:
But what about the Viagra ads that come on when I want to watch the 6:30 national news with my kids? Do they have TV's that can selectively turn off ads so my sons can get the news without getting these? Are such TV's in my price range ($100 or less)?

I'm sorry, but I think these ads pretty much treat women as sexual objects. Maybe I'm a traditionalist at heart. My husband and I agree that the pervasiveness of this kinds of things this early in the evening with this type of program would shock our parents. Innuendo is one thing, but to blatantly state "Talk to your doctor about your erectile dysfunction and your ability to have sex"?

Late night is one thing... but at 6:30? On public TV? On public TV? What about TRUE working class families, that might have late night jobs and can't as easily regulate the TV as easily? Yeah... my personal approach is to NOT have the TV on (I'll read the papers instead). Even if I'm exhausted I won't resort to turning the TV on to amuse the kids (let them be bored and read)... but some parents will.

One solution... get rid of "public TV." I think the cable companies will eventually succeed in this anyways... which may be good, and may be bad.

I think an important aspect of parenting is to provide your kids with the tools to sort these things out for themselves. If you teach your child how to think critically then you shouldn't have to worry about what they're exposed to when you're not there to micromanage.

If that commercial comes on and it really bothers you, try discussing it with your kid rather than hiding it from them... just a thought.
 
  • #96
Pythagorean said:
I think an important aspect of parenting is to provide your kids with the tools to sort these things out for themselves. If you teach your child how to think critically then you shouldn't have to worry about what they're exposed to when you're not there to micromanage.

If that commercial comes on and it really bothers you, try discussing it with your kid rather than hiding it from them... just a thought.
I grew up when the animals on the farm were expected to do what comes naturally. Even the littlest kids were expected to be present at the birth of a calf or foal if, possible though they were not hooked into every instance of breeding activity that led to the birth.
 
  • #97
turbo-1 said:
I grew up when the animals on the farm were expected to do what comes naturally. Even the littlest kids were expected to be present at the birth of a calf or foal if, possible though they were not hooked into every instance of breeding activity that led to the birth.

your point being that some things should still remain censored?
 
  • #98
turbo-1 said:
I grew up when the animals on the farm were expected to do what comes naturally. Even the littlest kids were expected to be present at the birth of a calf or foal if, possible though they were not hooked into every instance of breeding activity that led to the birth.

As I mention earlier I never had a desire to imitate, emulate, dress like, or idolize anything I saw in the barnyard.

Kids are heavily influenced by the media.
 
  • #99
Pythagorean said:
your point being that some things should still remain censored?
Not at all. We all saw bulls mounting the cows, etc. The point is that when a calf or foal was about to be born, the adults were paying attention (protecting their investments) and we kids were encouraged to be there, too.
 
  • #100
The media is raising a culture of porn careless porn addicted anti intellectuals.
 

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