Is Modern TV Promoting Over-Sexualization to Children?

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The discussion highlights concerns about the increasing sexualization of media aimed at children, particularly through platforms like MTV and performances by groups like the Pussycat Dolls. Participants express discomfort with explicit themes and the objectification of women, arguing that such content is inappropriate for young audiences. There is a call for responsible parenting, emphasizing the importance of monitoring what children are exposed to on television. Some argue that while nudity itself isn't harmful, the context in which it is presented can be detrimental. Overall, there is a consensus that the current media landscape poses challenges for raising children with healthy role models.
  • #91
Cyrus said:
It's ok. I still love ya. Flaurin Flaurin Filth!

Well that's good. I'm glad I still have someone that still loves me :biggrin: Cyrus has a big crush on me :!) There's no need to hide it now.
 
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  • #92
Evo said:
We can use our common sense and personal feelings to block what we don't want to see on our personal tv's. There is no reason that other people should have that choice taken away from them.

But what about the Viagra ads that come on when I want to watch the 6:30 national news with my kids? Do they have TV's that can selectively turn off ads so my sons can get the news without getting these? Are such TV's in my price range ($100 or less)?

I'm sorry, but I think these ads pretty much treat women as sexual objects. Maybe I'm a traditionalist at heart. My husband and I agree that the pervasiveness of this kinds of things this early in the evening with this type of program would shock our parents. Innuendo is one thing, but to blatantly state "Talk to your doctor about your erectile dysfunction and your ability to have sex"?

Late night is one thing... but at 6:30? On public TV? On public TV? What about TRUE working class families, that might have late night jobs and can't as easily regulate the TV as easily? Yeah... my personal approach is to NOT have the TV on (I'll read the papers instead). Even if I'm exhausted I won't resort to turning the TV on to amuse the kids (let them be bored and read)... but some parents will.

One solution... get rid of "public TV." I think the cable companies will eventually succeed in this anyways... which may be good, and may be bad.
 
  • #93
WarPhalange said:
I don't think it matters, because it detracts from the substance of the show.

I agree. Most shows don't have any substance so they have to keep people's interest with sex and violence.

A man and woman groping each other for several minutes occupies time without the writers having to come up with as much dialog. So does panning the camera over a bloody body.

Its a cheap way to avoid needing a good plot with substantial drama. Nothing beats a good old fashioned "sitting on the edge of your chair" drama.
 
  • #94
just get rid of your television, its a waste of time anyways. I don't have one, and every time I watch tv the propaganda gets more and more obvious. My sisters are homeschooled and I recently had to have a very uncomfortable discussion with them. Their friend goes to school and has a boyfriend (they are 11) for whom she is performing oral sex. Apparently this is normal at this age... My sisters were appropriately confused and upset. Needless to say they chose not to spend time with this girl any more, but it disgusts me that I have to discuss this with my little sisters when they are so young. Their television and music is very carefully monitored. They know about sex and babies etc from my parents, but children are definitely growing up too young these days.
 
  • #95
physics girl phd said:
But what about the Viagra ads that come on when I want to watch the 6:30 national news with my kids? Do they have TV's that can selectively turn off ads so my sons can get the news without getting these? Are such TV's in my price range ($100 or less)?

I'm sorry, but I think these ads pretty much treat women as sexual objects. Maybe I'm a traditionalist at heart. My husband and I agree that the pervasiveness of this kinds of things this early in the evening with this type of program would shock our parents. Innuendo is one thing, but to blatantly state "Talk to your doctor about your erectile dysfunction and your ability to have sex"?

Late night is one thing... but at 6:30? On public TV? On public TV? What about TRUE working class families, that might have late night jobs and can't as easily regulate the TV as easily? Yeah... my personal approach is to NOT have the TV on (I'll read the papers instead). Even if I'm exhausted I won't resort to turning the TV on to amuse the kids (let them be bored and read)... but some parents will.

One solution... get rid of "public TV." I think the cable companies will eventually succeed in this anyways... which may be good, and may be bad.

I think an important aspect of parenting is to provide your kids with the tools to sort these things out for themselves. If you teach your child how to think critically then you shouldn't have to worry about what they're exposed to when you're not there to micromanage.

If that commercial comes on and it really bothers you, try discussing it with your kid rather than hiding it from them... just a thought.
 
  • #96
Pythagorean said:
I think an important aspect of parenting is to provide your kids with the tools to sort these things out for themselves. If you teach your child how to think critically then you shouldn't have to worry about what they're exposed to when you're not there to micromanage.

If that commercial comes on and it really bothers you, try discussing it with your kid rather than hiding it from them... just a thought.
I grew up when the animals on the farm were expected to do what comes naturally. Even the littlest kids were expected to be present at the birth of a calf or foal if, possible though they were not hooked into every instance of breeding activity that led to the birth.
 
  • #97
turbo-1 said:
I grew up when the animals on the farm were expected to do what comes naturally. Even the littlest kids were expected to be present at the birth of a calf or foal if, possible though they were not hooked into every instance of breeding activity that led to the birth.

your point being that some things should still remain censored?
 
  • #98
turbo-1 said:
I grew up when the animals on the farm were expected to do what comes naturally. Even the littlest kids were expected to be present at the birth of a calf or foal if, possible though they were not hooked into every instance of breeding activity that led to the birth.

As I mention earlier I never had a desire to imitate, emulate, dress like, or idolize anything I saw in the barnyard.

Kids are heavily influenced by the media.
 
  • #99
Pythagorean said:
your point being that some things should still remain censored?
Not at all. We all saw bulls mounting the cows, etc. The point is that when a calf or foal was about to be born, the adults were paying attention (protecting their investments) and we kids were encouraged to be there, too.
 
  • #100
The media is raising a culture of porn careless porn addicted anti intellectuals.
 
  • #101
The media is raising a culture of porn careless porn addicted anti intellectuals.
You know it's bad when Dire Straits are the prophets:
they're pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
they want to sap your energy incarcerate your mind
they give you Rule Brittania, gassy beer, page three
two weeks in Espana and Sunday striptease

note for the colonials - page 3 of the Sun 'newspaper' features a picture of a topless young lady giving her view on world events.
 
  • #102
jreelawg said:
The media is raising a culture of porn careless porn addicted anti intellectuals.

if you're talking about The View and The Jerry Springer Show and Oprah, then i agree with you
 
  • #103
Proton Soup said:
if you're talking about The View and The Jerry Springer Show and Oprah, then i agree with you

I'm talking about thousands of consecutive hours on multiple 24 hour news channels, about Anna Nicole Smith. I'm talking about MTV's, "a shot at love with tila tequila". I'm talking about FOX news slogan "fair and balanced", or Bill's "the spin stops here".

How dumb do you have to be to buy the crap they sell now days?

P.S. the porn addicted thing isn't necessarily linked with the anti intellectual thing, just noticing both at once.
 
  • #104
jreelawg said:
I'm talking about thousands of consecutive hours on multiple 24 hour news channels, about Anna Nicole Smith. I'm talking about MTV's, "a shot at love with tila tequila". I'm talking about FOX news slogan "fair and balanced", or Bill's "the spin stops here".

How dumb do you have to be to buy the crap they sell now days?

P.S. the porn addicted thing isn't necessarily linked with the anti intellectual thing, just noticing both at once.

i think we agree about some of it, then. the thing about FOX, though, what you need to realize is that the stuff you're complaining about is commentary/editorializing, and not news. O'Reiley isn't supposed to be fair. in fact, he's just the flip side to MSNBC's Keith Olbermann. same tools, different handles. likewise, you can throw Rachel Maddow in the commentarian bin. they're entertainers, like Stewart and Colbert.


as for the actual nudity and such that i think this thread is supposed to be about, i'd just like to throw out at this point something I've been holding back on, the fact that demonizing this type of porn is basically demonizing males. the male's sexual arousal is more visual than the female, and making this out to be somehow base and depraved is bigoted.
 
  • #105
Proton Soup said:
i think we agree about some of it, then. the thing about FOX, though, what you need to realize is that the stuff you're complaining about is commentary/editorializing, and not news. O'Reiley isn't supposed to be fair. in fact, he's just the flip side to MSNBC's Keith Olbermann. same tools, different handles. likewise, you can throw Rachel Maddow in the commentarian bin. they're entertainers, like Stewart and Colbert.


as for the actual nudity and such that i think this thread is supposed to be about, i'd just like to throw out at this point something I've been holding back on, the fact that demonizing this type of porn is basically demonizing males. the male's sexual arousal is more visual than the female, and making this out to be somehow base and depraved is bigoted.

I don't know, I've probably watched about 10 mins of MSNBC in my life, and it is bias, corny and boring. I usually switch between CNN and FOX, I actually like watching FOX, it isn't fair and balanced, but if you watch half FOX and half CNN, you basically hear everyones side.

I want to say thought, that about the nudity thing, I don't think you can blame it on Males because of how we are born. We all fall for it, it is written in our DNA, to stop thinking clearly when you see it. Probably the same to some degree I think for women.

The simple fact of our DNA mixed with the natural laws of economics means this outcome. But, we are better off with free speech than without. I guess I just wish that our televisions were working for us instead of against us. As in making us smarter and more informed rather than makeing us dumber and riddled with memories of bias opinions.
 
  • #106
edward said:
As I mention earlier I never had a desire to imitate, emulate, dress like, or idolize anything I saw in the barnyard.

And that's the point. If sex is treated as just another normal bodily function, it doesn't hold so much appeal to be emulated by children.
 
  • #107
Moonbear said:
And that's the point. If sex is treated as just another normal bodily function, it doesn't hold so much appeal to be emulated by children.

Maybe that's the plan, if violence and murder are treated as normal day to day activities they won't hold any appeal, and kids watching CIS-Idaho won't go out and become gangstas
 
  • #108
Moonbear said:
And that's the point. If sex is treated as just another normal bodily function, it doesn't hold so much appeal to be emulated by children.

doesn't hurt that it's gross to watch, too.

and maybe if we banned cartoons, we wouldn't have so many of those bleepin' Furries.
 

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