Is Multiplication Really Just Repeated Addition?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the nature of multiplication and whether it can be accurately described as repeated addition. Participants explore this concept from various perspectives, including its implications for teaching mathematics, its applicability to different number systems, and its relationship to other arithmetic operations.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that multiplication is not merely repeated addition, citing examples such as multiplying fractions or irrational numbers where repeated addition does not apply.
  • Others suggest that while multiplication can be viewed as repeated addition in the context of natural numbers, this view becomes less applicable as one moves to rational and real numbers.
  • A few participants emphasize the pedagogical value of teaching multiplication as repeated addition to young students, arguing it provides a useful foundational understanding.
  • Some participants highlight that multiplication has distinct properties, such as bilinearity and the distributive property, which differentiate it from addition.
  • One participant contends that the method of multiplication is fundamentally different from addition, questioning the utility of the repeated addition analogy in more complex mathematical contexts.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that the metaphor of multiplication as repeated addition can still be useful if one allows for fractional iterations, thus maintaining its relevance in various scenarios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether multiplication should be considered repeated addition. There are multiple competing views, with some advocating for the traditional view of multiplication as repeated addition and others challenging its validity in broader mathematical contexts.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reveals limitations in the definitions and understanding of multiplication and addition, especially when extending concepts to rational and real numbers. Participants express uncertainty about how to rigorously define these operations and their interrelations.

  • #91
The dole is always a counterexample to staying in school...
 
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The dole is always a counterexample to staying in school...

That's pretty disrespectful of the young.

The average youth unemployment rate (through no fault of their own) currently stands at 25% and reaches over 50% in some areas.

Those who do get jobs do so, not on their academic record but by knowing the rich and powerful, if recent news articles are to be believed.

go well
 
  • #93
I think that multiplication is the unique operation which satisfies the distributive property, and, when applied to integers, is equivalent to repeated addition.
 
  • #94
epsi00 said:
try to multiply e by pi. e from exponential 1 and pi = 3.14...you'd see it's not a repeated addition at all.

I think it is...add e to itself 3 times, then add some more 'stuff'
 

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