Is My Air Cannon Safe After Winter?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the safety of a homemade air cannon that was left outside during winter. Participants explore concerns regarding the structural integrity of the device, particularly focusing on the materials used (PVC and ABS) and their behavior under cold conditions, as well as the implications of potential UV damage over time.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the safety of using the air cannon after it was left outside in winter, particularly at high pressures (120-180 PSI).
  • Another participant emphasizes that no one can advise on safety due to liability issues, especially concerning homemade devices.
  • A participant inquires whether cold temperatures cause PVC or ABS pipes to shrink or if they are weather-resistant.
  • It is noted that UV light can degrade PVC, potentially affecting its strength over time.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of using PVC for air pressure applications, with a participant stating that PVC is not rated for air pressure and can fail catastrophically.
  • Suggestions are made to consider switching to ABS for better safety, although it is acknowledged that ABS also degrades over time.
  • A recommendation is given to pressure test the device with water to mitigate injury risk in case of failure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a general consensus on the potential dangers of using PVC for air pressure applications, but there is no agreement on the specific safety of the air cannon after winter or the best course of action moving forward.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the limitations of using PVC for air pressure and the effects of environmental factors like cold and UV exposure, but specific assumptions about the air cannon's condition after winter remain unresolved.

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I left my Air cannon outside during the winter. I was wondering if it is still safe to use or if the cold might have left it unsafe.

The air tank is made of 2 PVC caps attatched to a PVC T pipe, in between there is ABC pipe spacers... The center of the T pipe is connected to a valve, which is connected to the shooting barrel at the other end..with standard PVC cement glue just so you get the picture.

So yeh was just wondering if it is still safe to use it. I used to put it at 120 PSI on average, and had the balls to use it up to 180PSI. It's a beast. But was just wondering if it is safe to use anymore, now that i left it in the winter.
 
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Well no one here is about to advise you that it's safe. We can't. Liability issues.
Especially a homemade device.

Same reason we can't advise you on whether a pain in your abdomen is nothing to worry about.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Well no one here is about to advise you that it's safe. We can't. Liability issues.
Especially a homemade device.

Same reason we can't advise you on whether a pain in your abdomen is nothing to worry about.

let me ask more specifi question. does cold shrimk pvc pipe or sbc pipes, or are they weathered resistant.
 
UV light can attack PVC.
 
If you made it yourself how did you test it for safety first time round?
 
munchies7 said:
PVC

PVC is not rated for air pressure, so no, it isn't safe (I don't know enough about PVC to tell you if it's worse now than before, though). This is an extremely common mistake among air-cannon makers.

The reason is that PVC's failure mode when holding air is to blow up, sending shrapnel and a hearing-loss-inducing pressure wave outwards. Plus, the shock of firing the cannon makes failure much more likely.

If you are concerned about safety, I'd recommend a switch to ABS (which is somewhat more expensive, but should still be within your budget).
 
Most polymers degrade in UV light. I think your PVC will probably loose more strength over Summer of it is left outside. (Unless it had water in it over Winter that turned to ice and expanded).

ABS is standard for polymer piping for compressed air but it still degrades over time. 10 year old ABS piping gets leaky.

If you are in doubt, I would rebuild it.

If you are hell bent on reusing it, pressure test it with water. That way failure under full pressure will be less likely to lead to injury.
 

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