Is My Calculation of Two-Particle System Energies Correct?

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This discussion revolves around the calculation of energies in a two-particle quantum system using the Hamiltonian and the associated eigenvalue equations for angular momentum operators.

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the eigenvalues of the angular momentum operators and calculate the corresponding energies for specific states. Participants question the correctness of these eigenvalues and the assumptions made regarding the operators.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's calculations and clarifying the properties of the angular momentum operators. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differences between the eigenvalues of J^2 and Jz.

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Participants are exploring the definitions and properties of angular momentum operators, with some expressing uncertainty about the derivation of specific eigenvalue equations. There is a recognition of the need to review foundational concepts related to these operators.

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Hey,

This question is on determining the energies of a two particle system given the Hamiltonian, I believe it to be simple enough but would like you guys to check it and fill in any gaps in my reasoning

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So I believe the eigenvalues of J^2 and J^2(z) are given by:

\hat{J}^{2}:j(j+1)\: ,\: \hat{J}^{2}_{z}:m(m+1)\Leftrightarrow \hbar=1

('z' subscript same as '3')

and so the energy of state 1,1 is :

2(\alpha+\beta)

The second part state that j=3, therefore m=3,2,1,0,-1,-2,-3
and so we just pop these into our eigenvalue equations above to attain the energies :

|3,3> : 12\alpha+12\beta\: ,\: |3,2>:12\alpha+6\beta

etc.

Is this right?

Thanks for any comment/help!
SK
 
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There is a mistake in your work. What is the eigenvalue of the Jz operator?
 
The eigenvalue of the Jz operator is 'm', so does that mean the eigenvalue of the Jz^2 operator is m(m+1)?

Oh and 'z' is the same as '3' for the subscripts!
 
Sekonda said:
The eigenvalue of the Jz operator is 'm', so does that mean the eigenvalue of the Jz^2 operator is m(m+1)?

No. If J_z|j,m>=m|j,m> then what is

J_z^2|j,m>=J_z(J_z|j,m>)=?
 
Oh, m^2?
 
Sekonda said:
Oh, m^2?

Yep. :smile:
 
Oh ok, well I just assumed it was the same as the J^2 eigenvalue j(j+1), does the J^2 operator raise the state by 1 then?
 
Sekonda said:
Oh ok, well I just assumed it was the same as the J^2 eigenvalue j(j+1), does the J^2 operator raise the state by 1 then?

You are confused about the J^2 operator. It is a total angular momentum operator (squared), not a ladder operator. The eigenvalues for the J^2 operator are correct as you have them: J^2 |j,m>=j(j+1)|j,m>

If you don't understand why the J^2 operator has a different eigenvalues than the J_z operator, you should review the derivation of these eigenvalue equations in your textbook or with your instructor.
 
It's not that I don't understand why they're different but more why the J^2 is equal to j(j+1), I'm sure we've 'shown' it somewhat before but these things are easily forgotten by myself.

Thanks anyway G01 for being patient with me and helping!
SK
 
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Sekonda said:
Thanks anyway G01 for being patient with me and helping!
SK

You're welcome!
 

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