Is My Understanding of Factorial (2n+1)! Correct?

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The discussion revolves around the understanding of the factorial notation, specifically (2n+1)!, and its relationship to previous terms in the sequence. Participants explore the correct formulation of factorials and their application in series convergence tests.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that the previous term of (2n+1)! should be (2(n-1)+1), leading to the expression (2n+1) = (2n+1)(2n-1)!.
  • Another participant counters that the previous term should be (2n + 1) - 1, not (2(n-1) + 1), and provides a general rule for rewriting factorials.
  • A third participant expresses confusion stemming from a ratio test example, questioning the similarity between the factorial operation and the manipulation of terms in the series.
  • A later reply indicates that there is a misunderstanding between terms in the sum and terms within the factorial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the correct interpretation of the factorial notation and its application, with multiple competing views presented.

Contextual Notes

There is a potential misunderstanding regarding the definitions and operations of factorials and their relation to series terms, which remains unresolved.

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For the factorial (2n+1)!, I thought the previous term is going to be (2(n-1)+1), which is equal to (2n-1).

Thus (2n+1)!= (2n+1)(2n-1)!

However, in the textbook, they have it as .

a_n= \frac{(2n-1)!}{(2n+1)!}=\frac{(2n-1)!}{(2n+1)(2n)(2n-1)!}

Are they wrong or I am wrong? Thanks!
 
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The previous term of (2n+1) is (2n + 1) - 1 not (2(n-1) + 1).

In General if you have (f(x))! You can rewrite as f(x)*(f(x) - 1)!

What you tried which is incorrect is f(x)(f(x-1))!

See the difference?
 
Ah ok. I see thanks. The reason I thought I was correct because I was looking at this example..

Which they are trying to determine if a series is convergent/divergent by the ratio test


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Notice how they change 2n-1 to 2(n+1)-1? That's what confused me. Now I know they do it because it is the ratio test and you are trying to put a_{n+1} but isn't that the same as what the factorial is doing? Thanks.
 

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You are confusing terms in the sum, and terms within the factorial.
 

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