Is Pharmacy School Worth the Investment?

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The discussion revolves around the value of investing in pharmacy school, including considerations of salary, work-life balance, student loans, and career paths within the pharmacy profession. Participants share personal experiences and opinions regarding the demands of the job and the financial implications of pursuing a pharmacy degree.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the attractive starting salary for pharmacists, often around $120,000, along with signing bonuses, which can alleviate student loan burdens.
  • Concerns are raised about the long hours some pharmacists reportedly work, with claims of 80-hour weeks, though others contest this by stating that such hours are not typical unless covering for vacations.
  • Participants discuss the importance of managing finances wisely, suggesting that a pharmacist's salary can lead to early retirement if handled correctly.
  • There are anecdotes about the varied career paths of pharmacists, including shifts to non-pharmacy roles and the challenges of job satisfaction in retail environments.
  • Some participants express the need for prospective pharmacy students to shadow pharmacists in different settings to better understand the work environment and expectations.
  • Concerns about the high failure rate in pharmacy programs are mentioned, indicating that prospective students should be prepared for rigorous academic challenges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express mixed views on the work hours and conditions in pharmacy. While some assert that long hours are common, others argue that this is not the case for all pharmacists. There is no consensus on the ideal work-life balance or the overall value of the investment in pharmacy school.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying experiences with student loans and financial management, indicating that individual circumstances can greatly influence perceptions of the pharmacy profession's worth. The discussion reflects a range of personal experiences and opinions without resolving the complexities involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a career in pharmacy, current pharmacy students, and those interested in the financial implications of pursuing a degree in healthcare may find this discussion relevant.

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This sounds pretty enticing:

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — The enticement was hard to refuse: a signing bonus of $30,000. The wad of cash would help with student loans, so who could turn down the extra cash — on top of a nearly $130,000 annual salary?

So, straight out of pharmacy school in Chapel Hill, N.C., R.J. Kulyk crossed the country for a job at a Walgreens in Redding, Calif. “It was a no-brainer,” Kulyk recalled.

Pharmacists remain in short supply across the country, particularly in rural areas. Competition among retail outlets and health-care facilities is fierce, and the pay — salaries typically start around $120,000 — is high. To lure pharmacists, retailers are dangling incentives of all kind. For a while, one even put recruits behind the wheel of a BMW.


Plus I love the study of pharmacology. I was thinking about medical school, but after shadowing doctors, I don't think I would want to work 60+ hour weeks, especially once I have a family. The pharms where my dad works work 80 hr weeks and get the whole next week off. That would be nice to have a vacation every other week.
 
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yeah but an 80 hour week is two weeks in one go, innit?

I like 37 hour weeks...
 
My good friend is a pharmacist, and I work in a pharmacy, how they all do it, is they rotate the days. Don't think they get anywhere near 80 hours per week, unless one of them went on vacation. It is pretty awesome pay, but think of the bills that you will have to be paying on in order to pay off the school loans. One of them, I think just now paid his loans off, and it's been about 20 years or so that he graduated. They have been giving awesome benefits to get more people to work for the certain companies. I would suggest looking into it, before you say yes. Maybe shadow a few pharmacists, from different comapnies, and weigh out the options (and incentives), and see how the work flow is.
 
To be honest, we live in a great country (US and Canada) where if you make decent money, manage it right, just about anyone can retire early (unless everyone does the same thing but no worries since no one does).

My plan is to try and save money, invest in different areas (real estate, stocks and bonds) and try to make myself a financially secure future by the time I'm 45 or so.

As a pharmacist, I would look at that as an opportunity to accomplish this quicker. Unfortunately, most see it as a chance to spend more and more money.

Invest wisely.
 
gravenewworld said:
Plus I love the study of pharmacology. I was thinking about medical school, but after shadowing doctors, I don't think I would want to work 60+ hour weeks, especially once I have a family. The pharms where my dad works work 80 hr weeks and get the whole next week off. That would be nice to have a vacation every other week.
One of my oldest friends is a pharmacist, but he decided that he didn't like working in a retail environment. He and his wife moved back to PA and he worked for a chain pharmacy while putting his wife through grad school so she'd have a masters in special education. Then they moved back to Maine so she could get a well-paying job and put him through law school. Not surprisingly, he got sick of legal work, too, and he and a friend started an import business that thrived until the recession struck. His major import was custom jewelry from Nepal, and it's pretty easy for women to give up buying jewelry in times of poor income. Now he's working as a pharmacist again to pay the bills. At least he's got the skills and the certification to fall back on.

If you can shadow a couple of pharmacists, see if you can work with at least one in a strictly retail environment, and another that works filling prescriptions for hospital and nursing home patients. My friend would have preferred to be in the latter position, but the openings he found were in retail, so he's working for a retail chain for now.
 
gravenewworld said:
The pharms where my dad works work 80 hr weeks and get the whole next week off. That would be nice to have a vacation every other week.

Great! Yet more life-critical jobs where those doing the job are working too many hours. Only recently did the medical establishment start cracking down on the scheduling of ER docs, who were working ridiculous numbers of hours.

That aside, my perception has long been that pharmacists do quite well. I think you have made a great choice! However, I also understand that pharmacy students have a very high failure rate - something around 90% - so plan to work hard. :smile:
 
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Oh yes, when you are on the national board of pharmacologists, please do something about those 80-hour weeks. I want my pharmacist to be awake to do his or her job.
 
mcknia07 said:
My good friend is a pharmacist, and I work in a pharmacy, how they all do it, is they rotate the days. Don't think they get anywhere near 80 hours per week, unless one of them went on vacation. It is pretty awesome pay, but think of the bills that you will have to be paying on in order to pay off the school loans. One of them, I think just now paid his loans off, and it's been about 20 years or so that he graduated. They have been giving awesome benefits to get more people to work for the certain companies. I would suggest looking into it, before you say yes. Maybe shadow a few pharmacists, from different comapnies, and weigh out the options (and incentives), and see how the work flow is.

Eh, I've come to accept 20 or 30 year student loans a simply a part of life now. It all depends on how you live. Do you pay off all your loans right away, or buy a house and a car after you get a real job and prolong the payments for 20 years? I've been looking at some pharm jobs, some places will actually help pay your loans off if you decide to work in an under served area.
I just applied for a pharm tech job for the next year at my local VA hospital. Definitely a pay cut, but the experience is invaluable to put on the application for schools.