Is Regularity Preserved Under Reparametrization?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the concept of regularity in curves under reparametrization, specifically examining the implications of different definitions of reparametrization in the context of differential geometry. It explores theoretical aspects and definitions related to regular curves and their parametrizations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a proposition from Pressley's "Elementary Differential Geometry" stating that any reparametrization of a regular curve is regular, but provide a counterexample involving the parametrization of a parabola that challenges this claim.
  • One participant argues that the inverse of the reparametrization map is not smooth and not even once differentiable at a specific point, which could invalidate the regularity of the curve.
  • Another participant introduces an alternative definition of reparametrization that only requires the map to be continuous, bijective, and monotonically increasing, suggesting that this definition leads to different conclusions regarding the regularity of curves.
  • There is a contention about whether differentiability is necessary for reparametrization, with some asserting that it must be a diffeomorphism, while others argue that being once differentiable may suffice for the proposition to hold true.
  • Participants discuss the role of smoothness in differential geometry, with one suggesting that smoothness may not be essential and that much can be accomplished with C² functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the definitions and requirements for reparametrization, particularly concerning the necessity of smoothness and differentiability. There is no consensus on whether the proposition regarding regularity holds under the alternative definitions presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the ambiguity in the definitions of reparametrization and regularity, as well as the varying interpretations of smoothness and differentiability in the context of differential geometry.

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Here's something really weird. As can be read in Pressley's "Elementary Differential Geometry":

Proposition 1.3: Any reparametrization of a regular curve is regular.

And 4 pages later:

Exemple 1.8: For the parametrization [itex]\gamma(t)=(t,t^2)[/itex] of the parabola y=x², [itex]\dot{\gamma}[/itex] is never 0 so [itex]\gamma[/itex] is regular. But [itex]\tilde{\gamma}(t)=(t^3,t^6)[/itex] is also a parametrization of the same parabila. This time, [itex]\dot{\tilde{\gamma}}=(3t^2,6t^5)[/itex] and this is zero when t=0, so [itex]\tilde{\gamma}[/itex] is not regular.

Just to make sure that [itex]\tilde{\gamma}[/itex] is a reparametrization of [itex]\gamma[/itex], consider the reparametrization map [itex]\phi:(-\infty,+\infty)\rightarrow (-\infty,+\infty)[/itex] define by [itex]\phi(t)=t^3[/itex]. Then [itex]\phi[/itex] is a smooth bijection with a smooth inverse such that [itex]\gamma \circ \phi = (\phi(t),\phi(t)^2)=(t^3,t^6)= \tilde{\gamma}[/itex], so [itex]\tilde{\gamma}[/itex] is really a reparametrization of [itex]\gamma[/itex] but it is not regular, contradicting proposition 1.3.
 
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It's inverse is not smooth. It's inverse isn't even once differentiable (look at what would happen to the derivative of the inverse at 0).
 
mmh, yes.

What is a little strange though is that in another book on differential geometry, the author makes the definition that a curve is a reparametrization of another curve is there exist a reparametrization map btw them that is continuous, bijective (from the domain of one curve to the domain of the other) and monotonous increasing. In other words, he does not require of the reparametrization map to be smooth.

So these two ways of defining when two curves differ by a change of param really aren't equivalent, because in the second case, proposition 1.3 above is not true. :-O
 
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the author makes the definition that a curve is a reparametrization of another curve is there exist a reparametrization map btw them that is continuous, bijective (from the domain of one curve to the domain of the other) and monotonous increasing.
No, the reparameterisation has to be differentiable as well. I.e., the whole thing has to be a "diffeomorphism", not just a straight isomorphism. Not that a striaght isomorphism would be completely terrible. It just wouldn't be a very good curve anymore.
 
That the reparametrization map and its inverse be one time differentiable is enough for prop.1.3 to be true. Is "smoothness" a luxury, or is it important for some other reason that it really be indefinitely differentiable?
 
Smoothness is a luxury - almost all of differential geometry can be done with C^2 functions.
 
Good to know.
 

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