Is the Chemistry Job Market in Shambles?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the current state of the chemistry job market, exploring concerns about job prospects for chemistry graduates, particularly in relation to the chemical industry and academia. Participants share personal anecdotes and insights regarding employment outcomes for individuals with chemistry degrees, as well as factors that may influence job availability and success in the field.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the chemistry job market being "abysmal," citing low-wage jobs and minimal upward mobility for those with advanced degrees.
  • Another participant suggests that job prospects can improve with higher grades, relevant elective coursework, internships, and research experience, indicating that chemistry is a diverse field.
  • Some participants share anecdotes of individuals with chemistry degrees working in unrelated fields, such as real estate and banking, implying variability in career paths.
  • There is a suggestion that additional skills, such as computer programming or engineering courses, may enhance employability in the chemistry field.
  • Participants note the diversity within the chemical industry, emphasizing that it consists of many different sectors, which may affect job opportunities.
  • One participant encourages considering specific areas within the chemical industry to better tailor educational paths and job searches.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally acknowledge the challenges in the chemistry job market, but there is no consensus on the overall viability of pursuing a career in chemistry. Multiple competing views remain regarding the factors that influence job prospects and the diversity of career paths available to chemistry graduates.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific data on job market trends, the dependence on individual experiences, and the unresolved nature of how various factors impact employment outcomes in the chemistry field.

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After digging around the web to piece together a picture of the chemistry job market, it looks pretty abysmal. There are countless posts on other sites by disgruntled chemists complaining about working hard for advanced degrees only to end up in low-wage jobs with no benefits and minimal upward mobility. I also read "The Real Science Gap" (look it up, it's a good read), which analyzed why this has happened to so many scientists who came to the field expecting high demand. According to the article, it's tied in with the politics of academia, immigration, and myriad other issues. The overall picture I get is that the profession is in tatters.

So, is what I've gathered accurate? I'm looking into potential majors and I have a strong interest in chem, but if the prospects are really that bad it might not be worth pursuing. Anyone have any insights into whether or not chemistry will be a viable field to enter within the next five to ten years? Or the best way to go about doing that in terms of specialization, research work, etc.?

(On a side note, what's weird is how this goes against almost everything that gets pushed on you in school, that "STEM" careers are in insanely high demand and are all awesome fields to go into. It's almost like students are being lied to if this isn't really the case. )
 
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"Chemistry", is not any single field. It is extremely diverse.

Some or much of what you described in your first paragraph truly describes a real problem. Even with all that, good prospects for jobs are usually match-able to candidates with higher grades, better sets of elective coursework, have had internships, or have had research experience of more than a year, learned to be proficient in some piece or type of measurement instrument, have learned how to operate some useful or common aparatus.

Also consider, that Chemistry alone is not always enough. Other types of courses will make you better in addition to just the degree in Chemistry. Have you some computer programming and interfacing education and training? Some courses of Microbiology? Any engineering courses? Vocational training before you studied Chemistry? Were any of it related to anything chemical?
 
I know a person with a PhD in chemistry but was working as a realestate agent.

Your mileage may vary.
 
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I know a person with a PhD in chemistry but is working as Chancellor of Germany.

Your mileage may vary.
 
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symbolipoint said:
"Chemistry", is not any single field. It is extremely diverse.

Good point. For the purposes of this discussion let's say I meant specifically jobs within the chemical industry or academia that are directly related to chemistry.
 
I know a person who never went to university and is now a billionaire who works for himself.

Your mileage might vary. xD

I actually personally know a person who did chemistry BACHELORS and now works in a bank.

Your mileage might vary.
 
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aerohead_18 said:
Good point. For the purposes of this discussion let's say I meant specifically jobs within the chemical industry or academia that are directly related to chemistry.
Same idea. Too diverse. The "Chemcial Industry" is not a single industry. It is many different industries.

One should think if possible, "what part of the chemical industry would I like to be in?"
From that, one can investigate employment opportunities in that part of the Chemistry world and try to decide how to arrange an education for degree in Chemistry for that.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I know a person with a PhD in chemistry but is working as Chancellor of Germany.

Your mileage may vary.
Know, or know of? If the former, maybe she can post in the Chem forum occasionally at your behest.
 
Know of. But I did meet Joachim Gauck.
 

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