Is the Echo Frequency Increased When a Dolphin Approaches Fish?

  • Thread starter Thread starter physicsgal
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of a dolphin's movement on the frequency of sound echoes, referencing the Doppler effect. Additionally, participants explore calculations related to sound frequency and resonant lengths of air columns.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the expected change in frequency due to the dolphin's movement, referencing the Doppler effect. There are calculations presented regarding observed frequency based on given speeds and sound frequency. Further questions arise about resonant lengths of air columns under different conditions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and updates on their findings, while others have sought clarification on specific aspects of the problems. There is a mix of agreement on calculations, but no explicit consensus on all interpretations or methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention different scenarios involving sound propagation, including a dolphin's movement and a band marching away, indicating varying contexts for the application of the concepts discussed.

physicsgal
Messages
164
Reaction score
0
if a dolphin swims towards some fish, and emits a high pitched sound. will the echo from this sound be observed (by the dolphin) as an increased/decreased frequency?

my vote is increased

~Amy
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Yes should be. Analagous to the doppler effect in police cars etc.
 
thanks :smile:

here's another question:
Vobserved = 2 m/s
Vsound = 330 m/s
Fsound = 96 Hz
Fobserved = ?

i calculated 96.58Hz or 9.7 * 10^1 Hz ?

~Amy
 
Yeah looks ok to me. Although is vobserved supposed to be the speed the dolphin is travelling?
 
thanks. no dolphin in the 2nd question. it's about a band marching away from a guy a the speed of 2 m/s.

~Amy
 
another question:

Find the second resonant length of an air column that resonates with a sound of frequency 1 kHz at 15 degrees C.

a) the air column is closed at both ends

b) the air colomn is open at both ends.

c) the air column is open at one end and closed at the other end.

can someone give me the formulas for b and c? :blushing:

for a i figured out the wavelength to be 0.34085 m and the speed of sound to be 340.85m/s.

so the resonant length ends up being 34 cm.

o:)

~Amy
 
update: for b i got 34 cm (same calculation as in "a")

and for c i got 25.5 cm

~Amy
 
physicsgal said:
update: for b i got 34 cm (same calculation as in "a")

and for c i got 25.5 cm

~Amy
Sounds all correct to me!

Patrick
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
6K
Replies
8
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
4K
Replies
20
Views
5K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
5K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
22
Views
5K