Undergrad Is the exponential function, the only function where y'=y?

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The discussion centers on whether the exponential function is the only solution to the differential equation y' = y. It is established that the general solution can be expressed as y = A e^x, where A is a constant, indicating that there are no other forms of solutions aside from this family. The uniqueness of the solution is questioned, with references to calculus studies that did not emphasize this aspect. A point is made about the validity of dividing by y, as it can lead to overlooking the case where y equals zero. Ultimately, the conversation reinforces that the exponential function, along with its constant multiples, represents the complete solution set for this differential equation.
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Hello,I was wondering. Is the exponential function, the only function where ##y'=y##.

I know we can write an infinite amount of functions just by multiplying ##e^{x}## by a constant. This is not my point.

Lets say in general, is there another function other than ##y(x)=ae^{x}## (##a## is a constant), where ##\frac{dy}{dx}=y##.I would really appreciate it if we can work a proof.
 
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Proof:
\begin{align*}
\frac{dy}{dx}&=y\\
\frac{dy}y&=dx\quad\quad\quad\textrm{[separation of variables]}\\
\log y + C &= x + D\quad\ \ \textrm{[integrating both sides]}\\
y&= e^xe^{D-C}\quad\textrm{[exponentiating both sides]}\\
y&=A e^x\quad\quad\ \ \textrm{[where $A=e^{D-C}$ is a constant]}
\end{align*}
 
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andrewkirk said:
Proof:
\begin{align*}
\frac{dy}{dx}&=y\\
\frac{dy}y&=dx\quad\quad\quad\textrm{[separation of variables]}\\
\log y + C &= x + D\quad\ \ \textrm{[integrating both sides]}\\
y&= e^xe^{D-C}\quad\textrm{[exponentiating both sides]}\\
y&=A e^x\quad\quad\ \ \textrm{[where $A=e^{D-C}$ is a constant]}
\end{align*}

Exactly. But I was thinking. Is this enough to say that it is the only solution?

I know this sounds hilarious, but when I studied calculus no one pointed out that the solution is unique. Is it?
 
we have
##\dfrac{d}{dx}y=y##
let us rewrite it as
##\dfrac{d}{dx}e^{-x}y=0##
now consider
##\dfrac{d}{dx}u=0##
what can we say about u?
 
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lurflurf said:
we have
##\dfrac{d}{dx}y=y##
let us rewrite it as
##\dfrac{d}{dx}e^{-x}y=0##
now consider
##\dfrac{d}{dx}u=0##
what can we say about u?

Constant w.r.t x
 
^then the only solutions are
##e^{-x}y=C##
as desired
 
Phylosopher said:
Exactly. But I was thinking. Is this enough to say that it is the only solution?

I know this sounds hilarious, but when I studied calculus no one pointed out that the solution is unique. Is it?

More generally:

https://math.berkeley.edu/~shinms/SP14-54/diffeq-thms.pdf
 
lurflurf said:
^then the only solutions are
##e^{-x}y=C##
as desired

I get your point. Thanks

PeroK said:
More generally:

https://math.berkeley.edu/~shinms/SP14-54/diffeq-thms.pdf

I will give it a try and read it. Thanks
 
Phylosopher said:
Exactly. But I was thinking. Is this enough to say that it is the only solution?
Step-by-step, there are no alternatives except for the choice of C and D.
 
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Phylosopher said:
Is this enough to say that it is the only solution?
You can use Picard-Lindelöf. :wink:
 
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andrewkirk said:
Proof:
\begin{align*}
\frac{dy}{dx}&=y\\
\frac{dy}y&=dx\quad\quad\quad\textrm{[separation of variables]}\\
\log y + C &= x + D\quad\ \ \textrm{[integrating both sides]}\\
y&= e^xe^{D-C}\quad\textrm{[exponentiating both sides]}\\
y&=A e^x\quad\quad\ \ \textrm{[where $A=e^{D-C}$ is a constant]}
\end{align*}

You divided by ##y##, which is not allowed when ##y = 0##.

This happens to be a solution, which can be included if you take ##y = A\exp(x)## with ##A \geq 0## as general solution (instead of ##A > 0)##
 
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to expand on lurflurf's solution, use the quotient rule to show that if y'=y, then (y/e^x)' = 0, hence y/e^x = constant.

using this a lemma, one can deduce that the kernel of the linear constant coefficient operator P(D), where Df = f' and P is a polynomial of degree n, has dimension n. see my web notes on linear algebra, last section of chapter 5, roughly page 119:

http://alpha.math.uga.edu/%7Eroy/laprimexp.pdf

briefly, the argument above gives the kernel of the operator (D-1) which generalizes to that of (D-c) and then by factoring a polynomial P(D) into products of linear factors of form (D-c), we get the result.
 
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