Is the graph of f(x)=1/x a closed set?

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The discussion centers on whether the graph of the function f(x) = 1/x constitutes a closed set in the context of topology. Participants explore definitions of closed sets, limit points, and the behavior of sequences related to the graph.

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  • One participant questions the assertion that the graph of f(x) = 1/x is a closed set, noting that its range does not include 0, which is a limit point of sequences converging to 0.
  • Another participant clarifies that a set is closed if it contains all its limit points and argues that there are no sequences in the graph that converge to 0.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that an alternative definition of closed sets, based on the openness of the complement, supports the claim that the graph is closed.
  • One participant presents a mathematical representation of the graph and asserts that it is closed because all sequences from this set converge to elements within the set.
  • A follow-up question raises the example of the sequence {1/n} and its convergence properties, prompting further clarification on the nature of sequences in the context of the graph.
  • Another participant responds by emphasizing that the sequence must be considered in the context of \mathbb{R}^2, indicating that the sequence {(n, 1/n)} does not converge as the first coordinate approaches infinity.

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Participants express differing views on whether the graph of f(x) = 1/x is a closed set, with no consensus reached. Multiple competing definitions and interpretations of closed sets are presented.

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Limitations in the discussion include the reliance on specific definitions of closed sets and the treatment of sequences in different dimensional contexts, which may affect the conclusions drawn.

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f(x)=1/x closed set??

A book I'm reading now says the graph of f(x)=1/x is a closed set, how come??

Its range is [(-\infty,0)\cup (0, \infty). A set is closed iff every convergent sequence has a limit point in the set. If a sequence converges to 0, then 0 is not in the range
 
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I think you're forgetting part of your definition for closed.

A set S \subseteq \mathbb{R}^2 is closed if it contains all of its limit points, i.e. if every convergent sequence contained in S converges to a point in S. There are no sequences contained in the graph of f(x) = 1/x that converge to 0.

An alternative definition for closed may make it easier to see that this set is closed. A set is closed if and only if its complement is open. The complement of the graph is certainly open, since for any point not contained in the graph, we can find an open disc containing the point that doesn't intersect the graph.
 
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The graph is the subset of mathbb{R}\oplus mathbb{R}

\mathcal{G} = \left\{\mathbb{R}-\{0}, \mathbb{R}-\{0\}\right\}

This is closed, since all sequences from this set converge to elements of this set in the metric topology.
 


spamiam said:
I think you're forgetting part of your definition for closed.

A set S \subseteq \mathbb{R} is closed if it contains all of its limit points, i.e. if every convergent sequence contained in S converges to a point in S. There are no sequences contained in the graph of f(x) = 1/x that converge to 0.

what about sequence {1/n}?
 


As dextercioby pointed out, and as I should have, the graph is actually a subset of \mathbb{R}^2, so I think your sequence would have to be {(n, 1/n)}, which doesn't converge, since the first coordinate goes to infinity.
 

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