Is the Halo 3 Legendary Edition worth the hefty price tag?

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The discussion revolves around the value of the Halo 3 Legendary Edition, particularly its pricing of approximately $130. Participants explore whether the additional content justifies the cost, comparing it to other gaming options and expressing concerns about pricing in the gaming industry.

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  • Some participants question the justification for the $130 price tag, suggesting it is excessive for a console game.
  • Others argue that hardcore fans may find value in the extra content included with the Legendary Edition.
  • There are mentions of alternative gaming options, with some participants noting they could purchase multiple PC games for the same price.
  • Some participants express concerns about the impact of high prices on piracy, suggesting that lower prices could lead to increased sales.
  • There is a discussion about the production costs associated with game development, with some arguing that these costs may justify higher prices.
  • Participants express differing opinions on the ethics and implications of piracy in relation to game pricing.
  • Some participants highlight that there will be cheaper versions of the game available, which may appeal to those unwilling to pay for the Legendary Edition.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the Legendary Edition is worth the price. There are multiple competing views regarding the value of the extras, the ethics of piracy, and the justification of game pricing.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the potential for different profit margins in the gaming industry, but there is no resolution on the actual financial implications of game pricing or piracy.

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Microsoft plans to release a http://www.actiontrip.com/#Halo9" edition of Halo 3?
anyone insane to actually pay ~130$ for this?
 
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Well you must be willing to pay that much it you want all the extra goodies. If you are a hardcore Halo fan, then you probably won't mind doing it. But there is no reason to charge that much for just the game.
 
Depends on what the extras are. I can't wait to play it though.
 
No way I'd pay that much of money, even if I eat breath, and drink the game...
prices are been more and more insane.
 
$130 for a maybe 20 hour console game. What a waste of money. I can buy 3 pc games (new releases) and play them on my gaming rig that will beat any console into the ground.
 
tacosareveryyum said:
$130 for a maybe 20 hour console game. What a waste of money. I can buy 3 pc games (new releases) and play them on my gaming rig that will beat any console into the ground.

Well it actually has a bunch of extra goodies with the game. Plus, that's 20 hours for the single player campaign. Online play can last for years if you are into that. Still a lot of money but, it's not just the game you are buying.
 
but 130$?
I know it's not just the game, but that just a lot of money for a game and the additions..
I'm a RTS fanatic, I have bought every game since red alert.
I have a feeling that Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars would be one of the best RTS ever made, but if it was more then 50~60 I'm not buying..
 
Yeah, it's a lot of money. That's just the Legendary Edition though. They are going to sell the game by itself for 50 bucks. Maybe 60 if you want a metallic box. The legendary edition is for geeks like me who want a replica of master chief's helmet or something crazy like that. If I had money to throw around I would buy it. But I don't so no spartan helmet for me.

Btw, C&C3 is going to be great.
 
Star Trek, The Next Generation season DVD's were outrageous too. At least the game itself won't be this expensive. Thank God there will be more than 1 version, otherwise they would charge everyone crazy prices.

I say, let the fanatics who don't mind spending a crapload of money on it spend their money..

To me, this means there will be all the more money to be put into the development of Halo4 or whatever game will replace it (assuming there will be one).
 
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I feel that a great deal of piracy today is related to the pricing.
Because Sometimes you can't really find out if a game is good or not until you buy it...demos don't really cut it...
To be true, sometimes I try cracked games, if they are good enough I buy them...
If they want piracy to go, lower the price, heck if they get games to at least 50% I would buy them at random!
And I bet you that it will increase the revenue.
 
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The world has been nuts for a long time now. :)
 
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ziad1985 said:
I feel that a great deal of piracy today is related to the pricing.
Because Sometimes you can't really find out if a game is good or not until you buy it...demos don't really cut it...
To be true, sometimes I try cracked games, if they are good enough I buy them...
If they want piracy to go, lower the price, heck if they get games to at least 50% I would buy them at random!
And I bet you that it will increase the revenue.

I hear a lot of people say that. It's true that sometimes you get tricked but there are plenty of sites that review games and if your a gamer you usually know what types of games you will like anyway. I know what kinds of games I like and I do a lot of research to make sure it doesn't suck.

Some also say that they feel they are getting ripped off by only getting paper cd sleeves instead of cases and pdf versions of manuals when they buy a game so they pirate it. In a way, they do have a point too.

All in all though, the temptation of getting something for free will always rule over other reasons, IMO.
 
  • #15
Piracy is not as big a deal as corporations make it out to be. I would like to see the profit margins on some of these games that we are paying $50+ for. However, on the flip side, if someone was stealing my stuff I would do whatever it takes to stop them. I doubt piracy will ever be stopped. People will always find a way around the system.
 
  • #16
I'm not in favor of piracy, it's wrong whatever the motive is, I do sound like a hypocrite, but it have it uses, I try the game, if I liked it I actually go buy it, If I didn't then forget the whole thing.
I don't want to go around throwing my money foolishly until I find something worthy to play..
But really, the kind of piracy I'm talking about here is in favor of games, I know that I'm not alone who do this, I can honestly say almost all of my friends do this.
This actually boost (not to a high figure) the sales, Again I repeat no one want to go around throwing money blindly until he found something he really likes..
Agree anyone?
 
  • #17
There are 3 versions for Halo 3, the most expensive is $130 and the cheapest is $70 (I think).
 
  • #18
70 big ones is still way too much for just a game.
 
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ziad1985 said:
I'm not in favor of piracy, it's wrong whatever the motive is, I do sound like a hypocrite, but it have it uses, I try the game, if I liked it I actually go buy it, If I didn't then forget the whole thing.
I don't want to go around throwing my money foolishly until I find something worthy to play..
But really, the kind of piracy I'm talking about here is in favor of games, I know that I'm not alone who do this, I can honestly say almost all of my friends do this.
This actually boost (not to a high figure) the sales, Again I repeat no one want to go around throwing money blindly until he found something he really likes..
Agree anyone?

I don't think most pirating helps out software developers.

I do think software developers can make extremely high profit margins though, which they may not deserve. But it does help bring in more competition and increase the quality of the games.
 
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BoredNL said:
I don't think most pirating helps out software developers...

Not most pirating, I'm talking of one kind only...
The game is usually stripped down from almost all videos and music, to reduce size, and it's not even the whole game...
 
  • #21
ranger said:
70 big ones is still way too much for just a game.


No doubt it is to much, but its so easy for companies like Microsoft to exploit one of the biggest games ever made for the XBox by racking up the price by that much. Especially the last chapter of such a great FPS game, its not much of a surprize that it is so high.

But yea, I am considering on buying it... even if it is 70$
 
  • #22
Before you say it's way too expensive for software, you have to consider how many hours went into designing, programming, testing, as well as the cost of equipment (ie. many thousands of dollars of computer equipment), the hardware required to mass produce the cds, boxes, manuals, etc. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the profit margin was less than 50% on the first million copies or so.
 
  • #23
NeoDevin said:
Before you say it's way too expensive for software, you have to consider how many hours went into designing, programming, testing, as well as the cost of equipment (ie. many thousands of dollars of computer equipment), the hardware required to mass produce the cds, boxes, manuals, etc. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the profit margin was less than 50% on the first million copies or so.

That doesn't mater. Every gaming company has to deal with those same issues. Yet there are many other great games that are cheap. I think renigade666 gave a pretty good reason.
 
  • #24
ziad1985 said:
Not most pirating, I'm talking of one kind only...
The game is usually stripped down from almost all videos and music, to reduce size, and it's not even the whole game...

I doubt it. How many people will not buy the game because of this compared to how many will? If it was really such a boon to the business, then the businesses would release demos like this.

I used to do something similar before and I have to say that it did not help me buy games, but I can see how demos nowadays are a bit misleading (some more so than others). They pretty much show you the entire game, minus a few very unimportant things, and then they make it seem like there is so much more to the retail version, when in reality there really isn't. (such as a strategy game that has 4 races that are nearly exactly the same, but you only play with one race in the demo and/or the plotline thins out after the very beginning. I can't stand that.)
Phil
 
  • #25
BoredNL said:
They pretty much show you the entire game, minus a few very unimportant things, and then they make it seem like there is so much more to the retail version, when in reality there really isn't. (such as a strategy game that has 4 races that are nearly exactly the same, but you only play with one race in the demo and/or the plotline thins out after the very beginning. I can't stand that.)
Phil

contradiction here?
First you say that they show the entire game, with a few minor things missing... then you talk about only being able to play 1/4 of the game.
(unless you are comparing cracked version of games vs retail... can't tell :P )

I have yet to find a demo of a game that let's you explore the majority of the game play. But if there was such a demo... what would be the point of playing the retail version of it?
 
  • #26
Demos are very misleading. The retail versions usually require much higher system requirements and sometimes end up having bugs in it that make the game not as fun because you have to wait for a patch.

And I disagree that cracked versions of games are stripped of everything. Out of all the games that I have downloaded, only 1 so far has been stripped. That being only the music and I don't think it was intentional. These days, pirated games have all the content.

This being said, I don't think pirating helps out developers either. But the problem is that so much time and money is spent on stopping pirates, the game ends up sucking bad or not being as good as it could be. Which ends up making people pirate more. No system will be 100% secure so they should just work on making the game good. I think most people, including myself, actually like to own a game so if it's really good, they buy it.
 
  • #27
Talking about pirating games and having that be one main reason why the prices are so high nowadays... Can games on the 360 even be pirated?

I have not heard of a 'cracked' Xbox 360 yet. I know PS2 had pretty much all their games could be downloaded/burned and played on a modded PS2, but nothing for Xbox 360.

Any ideas anyone?
 
  • #28
renigade666 said:
Talking about pirating games and having that be one main reason why the prices are so high nowadays... Can games on the 360 even be pirated?

I have not heard of a 'cracked' Xbox 360 yet. I know PS2 had pretty much all their games could be downloaded/burned and played on a modded PS2, but nothing for Xbox 360.

Any ideas anyone?

Actually yes, they do have pirated 360 games. You have to mod your 360 to play them though. I think by doing that, you can't use xbox live on that particular system or else they will ban your system and gamer tag. Not sure of any other consequences though.
 
  • #29
renigade666 said:
contradiction here?
First you say that they show the entire game, with a few minor things missing... then you talk about only being able to play 1/4 of the game.
(unless you are comparing cracked version of games vs retail... can't tell :P )

I have yet to find a demo of a game that let's you explore the majority of the game play. But if there was such a demo... what would be the point of playing the retail version of it?

I wasn't contradicting myself. I was pointing out how many game demos are misleading. The demo may show one part of the game, which is almost mirrored elsewhere in the game. Like that one race in an RTS that has equal counterparts in the other "races." You've practically already played the whole game, you just didn't realize it. When you buy the full version and begin to play, you are horribly let down because all of the races are the same, except for some graphical changes to how the individual units appear. Another example would be where you might play one level of a game, thinking it was awesome, but then when you buy the retail version, all 12 levels are almost exactly the same, with very little variation. So again, you already pretty much played the full version by playing that one level and there isn't much more to be gotten out of the rest of the levels, except perhaps a headache from the monotony.

I can see how a trial period for playing a game would be more fair than a misleading demo for a gamer such as myself, but I don't see how cracked versions of games actually boost sales. I used to administrate for a group that was involved in this sort of thing, and I'm sure that pretty much none of the 500 people bought any video games unless they had to. I'm speaking from experience here, not ideological wishful thinking.

Phil
 
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Id pay 130 for it. It does have some good extras. Anyone know if Bungie is responsible for making the game again? If they are I might not be as interested considering all of the glitches that were still in Halo 2
 

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