Is the Intermediate Value Theorem Sufficient for Proving Continuity?

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The discussion revolves around the Intermediate Value Theorem (IVT) and its implications for proving the continuity of a function. The original poster presents a function that seemingly satisfies the conditions of the IVT but is discontinuous, questioning whether this serves as a counterexample to the theorem's application in proving continuity.

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  • Participants explore the validity of the original poster's function as a counterexample to the continuity conclusion of the IVT. There are discussions about the conditions under which the IVT applies and the implications of the function's behavior.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants examining the assumptions behind the IVT and clarifying the conditions necessary for its application. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the theorem, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's example.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the application of the IVT and the specific conditions under which the continuity of a function can be inferred. Participants are questioning the assumptions made in the original problem statement.

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I have the 4th edition of Spivak's Calculus. Problem 13(b) in Chapter 7 says:

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Suppose that f satisfies the conclusion of the Intermediate Value Theorem, and that f takes on each value only once. Prove that f is continuous.
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Well, what about this function:

f(1) = 2
f(2) = 1
f(x) = x for all other x

And if you look at this on the interval [0, 3] then certainly for every c between f(0)=0 and f(3)=3 there is an x such that f(x)=c, so the IVT conclusion is satisfied. And f takes on each value only once. But f isn't continuous.

So isn't this a counterexample to what I'm supposed to prove?
 
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You're right, the converse of the intermediate value theorem is not true. Since your function is discontinuous, it works as a counterexample. There might be a misprint?
 
No, that's not a counter example. Suppose a= 0 and b= 1/4. Then the intermediate value theorem says that f must take on all values between f(a)= f(0)= 2 and f(b)= f(1/4)= 1/4 for some x between 0 and 1/4. But that is not true. For example, 1.5 is between 2 and 1/4 but f(x) is never equal to 1.5 between them. f does not "satisfy the intermediate value theorem".
 
f(0) is not 2 but I see what you are saying.

I took it to mean that I was supposed to prove essentially this:

If for a function f and an interval [a, b], for any c between f(a) and f(b) there is some x in [a, b] such that f(x) = c and f takes on each value only once, then f is continuous on [a, b].

But apparently I was supposed to hold the hypothesis to be true for any interval, not just a specific one...

Thanks.
 

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