Is the Mass of the Universe Accurately Represented in Astronomy Magazine?

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The discussion centers around the representation of the mass composition of the universe as stated in an article from Astronomy Magazine. Participants are examining the accuracy of the percentages attributed to dark energy, dark matter, stars, and interstellar matter, with a focus on the specific claim that stars constitute 0.5% of the universe's mass.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the accuracy of the 4% figure for interstellar matter, suggesting that it should be closer to 10% of the physical mass, with stars making up 90%.
  • Another participant asserts that stars constitute about 10% of baryonic matter, agreeing with the information presented in the article.
  • A participant raises the issue of uncertainty regarding the ratio of baryonic matter in stars compared to that not in stars, indicating a lack of consensus on this point.
  • One participant provides a calculation based on data from Wikipedia, suggesting that the mass of molecular clouds in the Milky Way could imply that stars should be represented as 4% rather than 0.5% in the article.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to consider error bars on the mass estimates, suggesting that significant uncertainty could exist, potentially by a factor of 10.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accuracy of the mass percentages attributed to stars and interstellar matter, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the error bars on the mass estimates and the definitions of baryonic matter, which may affect the interpretations of the percentages discussed.

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In the Augest issue of Astronomy on page 57, it says the contents of universe is: 70% dark energy; 25% dark matter; 4% free hydrogen and helium; .5% stars; and .5% for everything else.
Is the 4% correct? I thought intersteller matter (free hydrogen/helium) was only about 10% of the physical mass and stars 90%.
 
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From what I've read, stars constitute about 10% of baryonic matter. The information you have looks correct.
 
Isn't there an extremely wide range of uncertainty on the ratio of baryonic matter in stars to baryonic matter not in stars?
 
Wikipedia says that half of the ISM is in molecular cloulds and in the Milky Way there are 6,000 cloulds each with 100,000 solar masses. Thus, the mass would be: 6 x 2 x e8 or 1.2 x e9 solar masses. This might be 1% of the mass of the e11 solar masses in the Milky Way (concervative estimate). Thus, I think the Astronomy article should say 4% stars not .5%.
 
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Wikipedia says that half of the ISM is in molecular cloulds and in the Milky Way there are 6,000 cloulds each with 100,000 solar masses. Thus, the mass would be: 6 x 2 x e8 or 1.2 x e9 solar masses. This might be 1% of the mass of the e11 solar masses in the Milky Way (concervative estimate). Thus, I think the Astronomy article should say 4% stars not .5%.

That doesn't address the question of what the error bars are on all these numbers. Wouldn't surprise me at all if there were error bars amounting to a factor of 10.
 

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