Is the particle's circular motion fully described by its position functions?

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a particle described by its position functions X=Acos(t)exp(-at) and Y=Asin(t)exp(-at). Participants are exploring whether these functions adequately describe the particle's motion, which appears to be circular with a decreasing radius over time.

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  • Participants question the adequacy of the position functions in describing the particle's motion and explore the terminology used to describe the path, considering terms like "concentric circles" and "spiral." There is also a discussion about the mathematical representation of the motion and whether it should be derived explicitly.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants actively questioning the definitions and terminology related to the particle's motion. Some have suggested terms like "logarithmic spiral" and are considering whether mathematical derivations are necessary to support their claims.

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There is a focus on the mathematical relationships between the position functions and the nature of the particle's trajectory, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the correctness of derived equations and their simplifications.

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Hello,

If the position of a particle w.r.t time is given as X=Acos(t)exp(-at), and Y=Asin(t)exp(-at), then it is pretty clear that the particle is moving in concentric circles around the origin with decreasing radius. Is anything else ought to be stated in order to describe the motion of the particle? I mean, does it suffice, when asked to describe the motion of this particle, to simply state that its motion would be as I delineated above? In other words, what more can one learn, and say, about the particle's type of movement?

Also, I have found that dx/dy = [y+a√(A^2exp(-2at) - y^2)] / [ay - √(A^2exp(-2at) - y^2)]. Is that correct and, if so, can it be further simplified?
 
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Not concentric circles really - can you think of a better word?
 
Spiral?
 
What kind of spiral?
 
Converging to the origin?
 
Logarithmic spiral, then? Would that suffice as an answer, or ought it to be shown mathematically, explicitly via the equations?
 
peripatein said:
Logarithmic spiral, then? Would that suffice as an answer, or ought it to be shown mathematically, explicitly via the equations?

Under the drawing in Mathworlds, there's a formula given.
Can you derive it (or something very similar) from your equation?
 
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Thanks! :-)
 

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