Is the Prime Spiral an Intriguing Study or Just a Quirk?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Ulam Spiral and its relationship to prime numbers, exploring whether it is a significant area of study or merely an interesting quirk. Participants delve into the properties of diagonals in the spiral and their connections to prime-generating polynomials, while also questioning the depth of existing research on the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant finds the Ulam Spiral intriguing and questions the extent of study devoted to it.
  • Another participant suggests that the relationships between the diagonals of the Ulam Spiral and prime-generating polynomials are fairly well understood.
  • There is a challenge regarding whether all diagonals generate polynomials that yield prime values or if only specific diagonals do.
  • A clarification is made that no polynomial can generate only primes indefinitely, indicating a limitation in the understanding of these relationships.
  • A participant seeks to know which diagonals generate primes up to large values of 'n' and inquires about serious studies on the Ulam Spiral.
  • Another participant mentions that there are studies addressing the first inquiry and references the relationship between prime-generating polynomials and Heegner numbers.
  • There is a question posed about the second inquiry regarding polynomials that yield a specific prime for some integer, with a request for further conditions or clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the understanding of the Ulam Spiral and its properties, with some asserting a level of comprehension while others highlight uncertainties and limitations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of diagonals that generate primes and the nature of existing studies.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the properties of polynomials and the specific conditions under which they generate primes. The relationship between prime-generating polynomials and the Ulam Spiral is not fully explored, leaving open questions about the depth of research in this area.

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I've was reading about it [http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PrimeSpiral.htm] and found it intriguing, has there been a great deal of study devoted to it or is it thought of as some kind of quark?

[P.S. I don't really know much about number theory, just curious]
 
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I think it's fairly well-understood. The diagonals are related to prime-generating polynomials (which you can also read about on MathWorld).
 
but ALL the diagonals of Ulam spiral generate Polynomials that have prime values or only a few special diagonals of Ulam spiral only generate primes.
 
mhill said:
but ALL the diagonals of Ulam spiral generate Polynomials that have prime values or only a few special diagonals of Ulam spiral only generate primes.
Be careful, no polynomial generates only primes indefinitely. I think you meant --only generate primes up to a large value of n --!
 
Uh.. sorry , then i meant what are the diagonals that generate primes up to a large value of 'n' or perhaps a bit harder , given a certain prime what is the Polynomial in Ulam Spiral that for a certain integer the Polynomial gives you the prime 'p' are there SERIOUS studies with calculations for Ulam spiral.
 
I'm working through that one, give me a bit.Parse tree:

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    what are the diagonals
    (that generate primes up to a large value of 'n')
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  or perhaps a bit harder ,
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     (given a certain prime)
    what is the Polynomial in Ulam Spiral
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      (that for a certain integer)
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 are there SERIOUS studies with calculations for Ulam spiral.)
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Semantic re-formation:

Are there serious computational studies addressing:
1. What diagonals generate only primes up to large values of n?
2. Harder: given a prime p, what polynomials P have P(n) = p for some n?

Answer:

There are studies addressing #1. There is a close relationship between prime-generating polynomials and such serious topics as Heegner numbers (about which I know little). UPNT and MathWorld have lots of references.

#2 does not seem difficult. Do you have more conditions, or have I perhaps misunderstood you?
 

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