Undergrad Is the product of two hermitian matrices always hermitian?

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The discussion centers around the Hermiticity of the momentum operator squared (p^2) and its fourth power (p^4) in quantum mechanics, particularly for hydrogen states with angular momentum l=0. It is argued that while p^2 is Hermitian, p^4 is not, leading to a contradiction with the theorem stating that the product of two Hermitian matrices is Hermitian if they commute. The participants explore the implications of this contradiction, suggesting that either p^2 is not truly Hermitian in these states or that p^4 does not equal (p^2)^2. The conversation also highlights the importance of boundary terms and the differentiability of the wave functions involved, ultimately concluding that the apparent contradiction arises from the specific conditions of the l=0 states. The discussion emphasizes the need for careful consideration of operator definitions and their domains in quantum mechanics.
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Hans de Vries said:
So, with the (correct) version of the post above we may write more general for ##P=\hat{p}_r##:

##\hat{p}_r~~=~~ i\hbar\left(\dfrac{\partial}{\partial r} +\dfrac{1}{r}\right)##

For an arbitrary power ##\hat{p}_r^n## we can write

##\hat{p}^n_r~~=~~ (i\hbar)^n\left(\dfrac{\partial}{\partial r} +\dfrac{n}{r}\right)\left(\dfrac{\partial}{\partial r}\right)^{n-1}##

or alternatively:

##\hat{p}^n_r~~=~~ (i\hbar)^n\left(\dfrac{1}{r^n}\dfrac{\partial}{\partial r}r^n\right)\left(\dfrac{\partial}{\partial r}\right)^{n-1}##
But these powers have different domains, which causes the problems discussed in the present thread.
 
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Happiness said:
Intro to QM, David Griffiths, p269
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A. Neumaier said:
It is the Lebesgue integral over ##R^3##, but only if you say that ##x## denote Cartesian coordinates.
The integral is over Euclidean ##\mathbb{R}^3## and as such the volume element is independent of the choice of coordinates,
$$\mathrm{d}^3 x = \epsilon_{ijk} \partial_i \vec{x} \partial_j \vec{x} \partial_k \vec{x} \mathrm{d}^3 q.$$
Of course, it's this specific integral measure to be used in the Hilbert space, because we are dealing with a representation/realization of the Galilei group, where space is Euclidean.
 
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