Is the Russian Helicopter Death Ray Based on Multi-Beam Klystron Technology?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of a "Russian helicopter death ray" and its potential technological basis, specifically whether it utilizes multi-beam klystron technology or Tesla multi-beam technology. The conversation also touches on comparisons with other directed energy weapons, such as the Boeing Airborne Laser.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the existence of the Russian helicopter death ray and requests proof beyond dubious sources.
  • Another participant compares the payload capacity of the Mi-24 helicopter to that of a Boeing 747, suggesting significant limitations in the technology's application.
  • There are references to the Boeing Airborne Laser and its testing history, indicating that it has achieved operational capabilities against ballistic missiles.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of miniaturizing such technology for use on fighter jets, citing physical limitations of the components involved.

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Participants express skepticism regarding the existence and practicality of the Russian helicopter death ray, with no consensus on its technological basis or feasibility. Multiple competing views remain regarding the potential for directed energy weapons in military applications.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the size and energy absorption of components, as well as the challenges of miniaturization in directed energy weapon systems.

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hi i was wondering about the russian helicopter death ray and if it was based on the russian multi beam klystrons and all in one technology. does it use tesla multi beam technology?
thanks
 
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Other than total crackpot links, can you provide any proof that one exists?
 
klystronman said:
hi i was wondering about the russian helicopter death ray and if it was based on the russian multi beam klystrons and all in one technology. does it use tesla multi beam technology?
thanks

How about the Boeing Death Ray?

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/index.html
 
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Well, considering that the max payload allowable on an Mi-24 is about .001% of a 747, I'd say we're not talking the same thing here.
 
berkeman said:
How about the Boeing Death Ray?

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/index.html

"Testing was completed on the High Energy Chemical Oxygen Iodine Laser on December 6, 2005. The laser was fired
continuously for more than 10 seconds at a power level sufficient to destroy a hostile ballistic missile at operational
ranges."

from the "Missile Defense Agency Airborne Laser Fact Sheet" on that page.

It may not be too long before they may be on fighter jets.
 
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rewebster said:
It may not be too long before they may be on fighter jets.
They won't be on fighter jets in our lifetimes. It isn't like miniturizing electronics, there are some pretty hard limits to the minimum physical size of these things. Even something like the size of the emitter - too small and it will absorb too much energy and melt. And then there is the lasers themselves - they work sort of like rocket engines. They'd be hard pressed to get something like this on a 757.
 

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