Is the square of Heaviside function equal to Heaviside?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mathematical properties of the Heaviside function, specifically whether the square of the Heaviside function is equal to the Heaviside function itself. The scope includes definitions, properties, and implications of the function in various contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if H(t-t') × H(t-t') equals H(t-t').
  • Another participant suggests that any function with a range of 0 and 1 will equal its square, citing that x² = x has solutions 0 and 1.
  • A participant provides a definition of the Heaviside function, indicating that according to this definition, H²(x) ≠ H(x) because (H(0))² = 1/4 ≠ 1/2 = H(0).
  • Some participants argue about the relevance of the value of the Heaviside function at 0 in practical applications.
  • There is a discussion about the flexibility of defining H(0) as 0 or 1, suggesting that it does not affect the properties of the function.
  • One participant prefers a definition where H is the integral of a delta function at 0, stating that H is undefined at 0, and discusses left and right continuity implications.
  • A later reply asserts that H(t-t') × H(t-t') equals a ramp function R(t-t').

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition and properties of the Heaviside function, particularly regarding its value at 0 and whether H²(x) can equal H(x). The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the chosen definition of the Heaviside function and the implications of its value at 0, which are not universally agreed upon.

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Is the square of Heaviside function equal to Heaviside?
H(t-t')\times H(t-t')=H(t-t')?
Please help me on the above equation.
 
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What are ther definitions? It gives away the answer.
 
Any function which has its range 0 and 1 and nothing else will be equal to its square. This is because x2=x has exactly 2 solutions, 0 and 1.
 
Thank mathman and Matt Grime for your help.
I was perplexed at this problem for several days.
 
Please don't multi-post!

As I said in this same thread in the homework help section,
http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/H...eFunction.html
defines the Heaviside function by
H(x)= 0 if x< 0, 1/2 if x= 0, and 1 if x> 0.

With that definition, H^2(x) \ne H(x) because
(H(0))^2= \frac{1}{4}\ne \frac{1}{2}= H(0).
 
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This is merely a quibble. The value of the Heaviside function at 0 is irrelevant in any application.
 
But not irrelevant to the question of whether H2(x)= H(x)!
 
Quibble continued. We can define H(0) to be 0 or 1 (or anything else in between), since it doesn't affect its properties. If you want H(x)=H(x)2 for all values of x, let H(0)=0 or 1.
 
mathman said:
Quibble continued. We can define H(0) to be 0 or 1 (or anything else in between), since it doesn't affect its properties. If you want H(x)=H(x)2 for all values of x, let H(0)=0 or 1.

And you are asserting that whether or not H(x)= H2(x) is not one of its properties?
 
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Halls stated the "usual" definition of H
where H(0) = 1/2

Is there another definition you want to use?
 
  • #11
Final quibble. I prefer a definition that H(x) is the integral of a delta function at 0. In that case, H is undefined at 0. If you want left continuity, H(0)=0, right continuity gives H(0)=1.
 
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snooper007 said:
Is the square of Heaviside function equal to Heaviside?
H(t-t&#039;)\times H(t-t&#039;)=H(t-t&#039;)?
Please help me on the above equation.
No. H(t-t&#039;)\times H(t-t&#039;)=R(t-t&#039;)

Here R is the ramp function
 

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