Is the system linear if there is an independant gravity term

In summary, the system is nonlinear if a scalar multiple of the force does not lead to a scalar multiple of the mass.
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Like the topic,if in my system derivation, there is an independent gravitational force independent of the state variable, is my system linear? I believe it is not but my instructor is telling is it is. I'm thinking that if there is is an extra gravitational term,the output of the system does not obey f(ax ) = af(x).
 
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  • #2
Linear in which variable?
Can you add some context to your question?
 
  • #3
Um, could you explain further by which variable you mean? I think I have the misconception that if there are any terms in the equation of motion not associated to input or output, the system is nonlinear, since the equation itself, when input or output is multiplied by a constant, does not follow the law of superposition.
 
  • #4
Simple example: ##y=a^2x##

y and x have a linear relationship - if you multiply x by 2, y gets multiplied by 2 as well. The system is linear, if you consider "a" as a constant parameter, and look at x and y. You can add multiple solutions as superpositions.

y and a do not have a linear relationship - if you multiply a by 2, y gets multiplied by 4. The system is not linear, if you consider "x" as a constant parameter, and look at a and y. You cannot add multiple solutions as superposition.
 
  • #5
Okay, um then I should make it something like this: if my system is equation is something like:
[itex] f - mg - u = 0 [/itex] where f is the input and u is a disturbance (both are functions of time).
having a scalar multiple of my force would not increase the system's response in a linear way. does this mean that this system is not linear?
[itex] f(a*t) - mg - u(t) = 0 [/itex]
 
  • #6
A scalar multiple of the force would not lead to a scalar multiple of the mass (if u does not scale in the same way), indeed.
 
  • #7
So the system is non-linear? It's kind of strange to think of it in this way, so I'm not really sure.
 
  • #8
I think it is non-linear with the interpretation as in post #5.
 

1. Is a system considered linear if there is an independent gravity term?

It depends on the context and definition of linearity. In general, if the system can be described by a linear function (where the output is directly proportional to the input), then the presence of a constant gravity term does not affect its linearity. However, if the gravity term significantly changes the behavior of the system, it may no longer be considered linear.

2. How does an independent gravity term affect linearity in a system?

An independent gravity term can potentially introduce nonlinearity in a system. This is because the gravity term adds a constant value to the system's output, which may not be directly proportional to the input. However, if the gravity term is small or negligible compared to the other terms in the system, it may still be considered linear.

3. Can a system with an independent gravity term be considered linear at all?

Yes, it is possible for a system with an independent gravity term to still be considered linear. This is determined by the behavior of the system and how the gravity term affects it. If the gravity term does not significantly change the system's behavior, it may still be considered linear.

4. How can I tell if a system is linear with an independent gravity term?

To determine if a system is linear with an independent gravity term, you can analyze the system's behavior and compare it to a linear function. If the output is directly proportional to the input, then the system may still be considered linear. However, if the gravity term causes a significant change in the behavior, it may no longer be considered linear.

5. What are the implications of a system being linear or nonlinear with an independent gravity term?

The implications of linearity or nonlinearity in a system with an independent gravity term depend on the specific situation and application. In some cases, a linear system may be easier to analyze and predict its behavior. However, a nonlinear system may better represent the real-world behavior and provide more accurate results. It is important to consider the context and purpose of the system when determining the significance of linearity with an independent gravity term.

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