Is there a C^1 function that satisfies certain conditions?

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The discussion centers on finding a C^1 function φ that satisfies the equation f(x, φ(x)) = 0 given the conditions on the partial derivatives of f. The existence of such a function is linked to the application of the Peano existence theorem, which provides local solutions but not necessarily global ones across R^2. The participants explore the implications of the strict inequality between the partial derivatives and its effect on the differential equation derived from the implicit function theorem. There is a concern about the behavior of the solution when the inequality is not strict, particularly at points where both partial derivatives are zero. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the challenges in extending local solutions to a global context.
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Homework Statement


Let be ##f \in C^{1}(\mathbb{R}^{2}, \mathbb{R})## and ##(x_{0} , y_{0}) \in \mathbb{R}^{2} / f(x_{0}, y_{0}) = 0##. I suppose ##|\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}| \ge |\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}|(2)##.
I'm looking for ##\phi \in C^{1}(\mathbb{R}, \mathbb{R}) / \forall x \in \mathbb{R} f(x, \phi(x)) = 0## and ##\phi(x_{0}) = y_{0}##.

Homework Equations


##(x_{0} , y_{0}) \in \mathbb{R}^{2} / f(x_{0}, y_{0}) = 0##
##|\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}| \ge |\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}|##

The Attempt at a Solution



If a such solution exists we necssarly have ##\forall x \in \mathbb{R}, \phi'(x) \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}(x, \phi(x)) + \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}(x, \phi(x)) = 0 (1)##.
We can stated ##x \rightarrow (x, \phi(x))## is injective so if we look its image we perhaps make a variable changement in (1). But I don't think it's usefull.
And I don't see how the majoration (2) is usefull.
 
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Calabi said:

Homework Statement


Let be ##f \in C^{1}(\mathbb{R}^{2}, \mathbb{R})## and ##(x_{0} , y_{0}) \in \mathbb{R}^{2} / f(x_{0}, y_{0}) = 0##. I suppose ##|\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}| \ge |\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}|(2)##.
I'm looking for ##\phi \in C^{1}(\mathbb{R}, \mathbb{R}) / \forall x \in \mathbb{R} f(x, \phi(x)) = 0## and ##\phi(x_{0}) = y_{0}##.

Homework Equations


##(x_{0} , y_{0}) \in \mathbb{R}^{2} / f(x_{0}, y_{0}) = 0##
##|\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}| \ge |\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}|##

The Attempt at a Solution



If a such solution exists we necssarly have ##\forall x \in \mathbb{R}, \phi'(x) \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}(x, \phi(x)) + \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}(x, \phi(x)) = 0 (1)##.
We can stated ##x \rightarrow (x, \phi(x))## is injective so if we look its image we perhaps make a variable changement in (1). But I don't think it's usefull.
And I don't see how the majoration (2) is usefull.

It might not be "usefull", but it could be "useful". Anyway, if the inequality ##|f_y| >|f_x| \; \forall (x,y)## were strict (which your given one is not), then you would be allowed to divide by ##f_y##, and so get the differential equation
\phi'(x) = -F(x,\phi(x)), \; F(x,y) \equiv \frac{f_x(x,y)}{f_y(x,y)}
If you know some theorems about the existence and smoothness of solutions to differential equations, you could use those in this problem.

You would still need to worry about what happens if the inequality is not strict and there are points where ##f_x(x,y) = f_y(x,y) = 0##.

If you do not have access to theorems about differential equations, you would need another method.
 
Hello : indeed the inequality is trict my beg. So the equation is true.
Anyway I was thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_existence_theorem .
With the condition ##\phi(x_{0}) = y_{0}##. But the theorem give a local solution.
Not on ##\mathbb{R}^{2}##. And I don't use ##f(x_{0}, y_{0}) = 0##.
 
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Hello : indeed the inequality is trict my beg. So the equation is true.
Anyway I was thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_existence_theorem .
With the condition ##\phi(x_{0}) = y_{0}##. But the theorem give a local solution.
Not on ##\mathbb{R}^{2}##. And I don't use ##f(x_{0}, y_{0}) = 0##.

Yes, you do use ##f(x_0,y_0) = 0##; do you see where?
 
In the Azela Peano theorem you just look for condition on ##\phi##. So I don't see.
And I still have a local solution.
 
So is there a general way to solve ##\phi'(x) = F(x, \phi(x))## on all ##\mathbb{R}^{2}## please?
 
If ##g : x \rightarrow f(x, \phi(x)) ## is nul with ##\phi(x_{0}) = y_{0}## then we get the equation you wroght.
If we got the equation you wroght then g is constant and as ##\phi(x_{0}) = y_{0}## and ##f(x_{0}, y_{0}) = 0## then g is constant.
But I still have a local solution.
 

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