Is there a key to thinking more mathematically?

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The discussion revolves around the fundamentals and elements that contribute to thinking mathematically. Participants explore various approaches, theories, and practices that may enhance mathematical thinking, including both conceptual and practical aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that extensive practice and interaction with others who think mathematically are essential for developing mathematical skills.
  • There is a notion that while there are no shortcuts, organizing principles can aid in approaching different types of textbook problems.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of asking "why" and seeking convincing answers rather than accepting authority or written texts as valid justifications.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of step-wise refinement from information theory, advocating for breaking down complex problems into simpler, manageable steps.
  • Examples from NASA's Apollo program are provided to illustrate how modular approaches can lead to successful problem-solving in both practical and theoretical contexts.
  • There is a mention of key mathematical theories such as set theory, number theory, and functions as important elements in mathematical thinking.
  • A participant challenges the distinction between tools and skills, suggesting that the focus should not be on tools alone.

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Participants express a variety of views on the fundamentals of mathematical thinking, with no clear consensus on a singular approach or set of principles. Multiple competing perspectives remain throughout the discussion.

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Some claims rely on personal experiences and anecdotal evidence, and there are unresolved distinctions between tools and skills in mathematical thinking. The discussion does not reach a definitive conclusion on the best practices for enhancing mathematical thought.

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Are there some fundamentals or elements for thinking mathematically?

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Lots and lots of practice and hanging around other people who think mathematically is how I got to be good at it.

I don't think there are any short cuts. But there can be some organizing principles for approaching different classes of textbook type problems.

A solid foundation for solving lots of textbook type problems in physics, chemistry, and math eventually provides a big toolbox for other kinds of problems that occur in other contexts. But building up the toolbox takes years of practice and homework in courses with lots of textbook type problems.
 
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Dr. Courtney said:
Lots and lots of practice and hanging around other people who think mathematically is how I got to be good at it.

I don't think there are any short cuts. But there can be some organizing principles for approaching different classes of textbook type problems.

A solid foundation for solving lots of textbook type problems in physics, chemistry, and math eventually provides a big toolbox for other kinds of problems that occur in other contexts. But building up the toolbox takes years of practice and homework in courses with lots of textbook type problems.
Thanks for replying. Once I read in Quora that some of most important theories in maths are: Set theory, number theory and functions
 
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Anti Hydrogen said:
Are there some fundamentals or elements for thinking mathematically?

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Always ask "why" and don't be satisfied by an answer which didn't convince you. Because the professor said or because it is written in the book are no valid answers.
 
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Anti Hydrogen said:
Are there some fundamentals or elements for thinking mathematically?
One fundamental from information theory that helps me think mathematically and solve difficult problems can be called step-wise refinement in the context of the modular hypothesis, now theory. Given a large intractable problem, breakdown or refine the problem into simple steps that you can solve. Faced with a difficult landscape, consider simple shapes that combine to define or map the actual terrain.

Examples abound such as how NASA solved the unique problem of putting people on the moon. The early manned rockets launched astronauts into space with recovery, then into orbit around the earth. Later refinements had spacecraft dock in space and then orbit the moon and return. Finally, these various steps combined into a successful lunar landing, docking in orbit and a safe return to earth.

The Apollo spacecraft consisted of many modules performing diverse functions such as the large boosters to lift from earth, smaller modules for life support and flight control, and the lunar excursion module (LEM) that conveyed astronauts to the lunar surface, provided habitat then launched the explorers into orbit to dock with the service module for return to earth.

Even pure mathematical problems may be refined into sets and functions as you describe to either solve the problem or demonstrate lack of a viable solution.
 
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Thanks for replying. Once I read in Quora that some of most important theories in maths are: Set theory, number theory and functions

You are mistaking tools for skill.
 
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