Is There a Paradox in the Equation for Oblate Spheroids?

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The discussion centers on the apparent paradox between the equations for an oblate spheroid and the Earth’s model using the WGS 84 system. The standard equation for an oblate spheroid is given by \(\frac{x^2+y^2}{a^2} + \frac{z^2}{c^2} = 1\), where \(c < a\). In contrast, the WGS 84 model employs equations that incorporate geodetic latitude, resulting in variable denominators based on latitude. This discrepancy raises questions about the independence of ECEF coordinates from geodetic and geocentric systems.

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I'm a little confused by what appears to me to be a paradox. I understand that the equation for an oblate spheroid is given by
\begin{equation}
\frac{x ^ 2+y^2}{a^2} + \frac{z ^ 2}{c^2}= 1, c < a
\end{equation}
where a and c are the semi-major and semi-minor axes respectively.
However, the definitions for the WGS 84 oblate spheroid model of the Earth using the ECEF <--> geodetic latitude/longitude/height are (Wiki Link) the following equations
\begin{equation}
x = N(\phi) cos\phi cos\lambda \\
y = N(\phi) cos\phi sin\lambda \\
z = N(\phi)(1-e^2) sin \phi \\
N(\phi) = \frac{a}{\sqrt{1-e^2 sin^2\phi}}
\end{equation}
where \phi is the geodetic latitude, \lambda is the longitude, e is the eccentricity and a is the semi-major axis. I removed the height parameter as I am only concerned with the spheroid surface.

I have also read a paper which states the equation relating the ECEF X,Y,Z is
\begin{equation}
\frac{x ^ 2+y^2}{N(\phi)^2} + \frac{z ^ 2}{[N(\phi)(1-e^2)]^2}= 1
\end{equation}

The last equation has denominators that depends on the geodetic latitude while the first equation for the oblate spheroid has denominators which are constant. Is there something wrong?
 
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The equation you quote for an oblate spheroid uses geocentric latitude. I believe the equations on the Wiki page use geodetic latitude. There is a comment about that on the page you linked.
 
Well yes, but isn't ECEF independent of geodetic/geocentric coordinates? Then in the last equation, this seems to suggest that x,y,z must fit a different equation for different geodetic latitudes.
 

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