Is there an easier way to factor these polynomials?

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The discussion revolves around factoring two polynomial equations: one of degree six and another that involves a squared expression. Participants are exploring methods to simplify the factoring process and are questioning the efficiency of their current approaches.

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  • The original poster attempts to factor the equations but expresses concern over the length of their method. They inquire about potential shortcuts or grouping techniques. Some participants suggest using substitution to simplify the first equation, while others clarify the substitution process.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on using substitution. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the next steps, and the discussion is ongoing without a clear consensus on the approach to take.

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I have two equations, I'm pretty sure I can solve them, but the method I know of is was too long, and I've never had to use very long methods to solve any problems so far. I'm wondering if there's some shortcut method that I don't know, or that I'm forgetting. Here are the equations(I have solve for x):

1. [itex]x^6 - 26x^3 - 27 = 0[/itex]

2. [itex](x^2 + 2x)^2 - (x^2 + 2x) -12 = 0[/itex]

For 1, I thought of doing this:

[itex]x^3(x^3 - 26) - 27 = 0[/itex]

That was all I could come up with, I'm not sure what to do next.

As for 2, I did this:

[itex]x^4 + 4x^3 + 4x^2 - x^2 - 2x - 12 = 0[/itex]
[itex]x^4 + 4x^3 + 3x^2 -2x -12 = 0[/itex]

That's as far as I could get, I figred I could get the factors by continuosly long dividing the polynomial by a factor I could find using the factor theore, but I didn't really want to have do that much work, isn't there a shortcut method? A way of grouping them or something? I'm wondering this about both of the equations. Thanks in advance.
 
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1. Let t = x3 then solve for t.

Think about what you just did then apply it to #2
 
Integral said:
1. Let t = x3 then solve for t.

Think about what you just did then apply it to #2

What t are you talking about? I don't see a t in either of the problems.
 
It is called a substitution. Let t= x3 then work in t, you introduce a new variable.
 
Oh, I was reading it wrong, ok, so I do it like this?

[itex]t(t -26) - 27 = 0[/itex]
[itex]t^2 - 26t - 27 = 0[/itex]

And then what do I do, solve it like a quadratic?
 
Like a 5yr old learning to ride a bike. I have just given you a push... now... PEDAL.
 
Integral said:
Like a 5yr old learning to ride a bike. I have just given you a push... now... PEDAL.

:smile:


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I guess that means I should continue with my thinking?

[itex]t^2 - 26 - 27 = 0[/itex]
[itex](t - 27)(t + 1) = 0[/itex]

[itex](t - 27) = 0[/itex]
[itex]x^3 - 27 = 0[/itex]
[itex](x - 3)(x^2 + 3x + 9)[/itex]

[itex](t + 1) = 0[/itex]
[itex]x^3 + 1 = 0[/itex]
[itex](x + 1)(x^2 - 1x + 1)[/itex]

Is that right so far? Do I just continue doing what I was doing?
 
Yes, now put them back together!
 
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HallsofIVy said:
Yes, now put them back together!

What do you mean by "put them back together"? Don't I have to continue breaking them down to solve for the roots? Sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying.
 
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Are you looking for ALL solutions or just the ones in the Real numbers?
 

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