Is there any other place I could get this RAM?

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The discussion revolves around finding alternative sources for a specific RAM kit compatible with the MSI Big Bang MPower Z77 motherboard. Participants explore various online retailers and discuss the implications of using different RAM brands and specifications, as well as considerations for gaming performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Newegg and TigerDirect are out of stock for the desired RAM kit and suggest looking for alternatives on trusted websites.
  • There is a discussion about whether the memory kit was specifically designed for the motherboard, with some skepticism expressed regarding this claim.
  • One participant suggests that using different branded RAM is acceptable as long as the specifications match and the manufacturer is reputable.
  • Specifications for the preferred RAM are provided, including size, speed, timings, and voltage, with alternative RAM options recommended based on similar specs.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of overclocking to achieve the advertised speeds of the RAM, with a suggestion that without overclocking, the RAM may run at standard speeds, making high-cost RAM less beneficial.
  • Participants discuss the appropriateness of 16GB of RAM for gaming, with some asserting that it is generally overkill, while others mention specific games that may benefit from more RAM.
  • One participant mentions eBay as a potential source for RAM, advising caution regarding compatibility with the motherboard.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of matching RAM brands and the performance implications of using different specifications. There is no consensus on the optimal amount of RAM for gaming, with some advocating for 8GB and others suggesting 16GB may be beneficial for certain games.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of ensuring compatibility with the motherboard and the potential performance differences based on RAM specifications and usage scenarios, particularly regarding overclocking and gaming performance.

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This discussion may be useful for PC builders, gamers considering RAM options, and individuals seeking advice on compatible hardware for specific motherboards.

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Newegg is currently out of stock and they don't have it anywhere on tigerdirect. It could be months before they have them back in stock.

I'm building a new PC and I have the MSI big bang mpower Z77 motherboard. I read that this memory kit was designed specifically for my mobo.

Is there any other place where I can order this particular memory kit online?

It must be from a trusted and reputable website.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ST0DV4427
 
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Kutt said:
I read that this memory kit was designed specifically for my mobo.
It that is actually true (which doesn't seem very likely IMO), buying that mobo was a dumb decision - but some things you have to learn by expierence!

Is there any other place where I can order this particular memory kit online?
It must be from a trusted and reputable website.
You can probably find out what you need here. I don't know how big the company is in the USA, but they have a very good reputation in the UK.
http://www.crucial.com/store/drammemory.aspx

Either click "scan my system" (and give it permission for messages about downliading software), or select from the lst if you know EXACTLY what make of mobo you have - when you get to the bottom of several layers of submenus, there is a long list of "MSI Z77" boards.
 
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Kutt said:
Newegg is currently out of stock and they don't have it anywhere on tigerdirect. It could be months before they have them back in stock.

I'm building a new PC and I have the MSI big bang mpower Z77 motherboard. I read that this memory kit was designed specifically for my mobo.

Is there any other place where I can order this particular memory kit online?

It must be from a trusted and reputable website.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ST0DV4427

I did a couple google searches and didn't really come up with anything. I realize you probably had your heart set on getting matching stuff but it really doesn't make any difference if you don't have the same branded RAM. As long as the specs match and you buy your ram from a quality manufacturer, everything will be just fine.

If you don't want to wait for the RAM to be back in stock again, here's what I would do.
Get different branded RAM.

Here's the specs on your preferred ram
Size: 4x4GB
Speed: DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)
Timings: 9-11-10-27
Voltage: 1.65

Here's the ram I would get if i was in your shoes.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231563
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231503
Size: 4x4GB
Speed: DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)
Timings: 9-11-10-28
Voltage: 1.65

They are essentially identical, the only difference is 1 clock cycle in tRAS and a bit of difference in packaging. Performance wise, if you're modeling a complex system that will take weeks or months to run, yeah, you might notice some time saving but if you're building a gaming system, you won't be able to tell a difference.

And this is all only relevant if you're overclocking your system and running at those specified speeds and timing. Your memory won't run at 2133MHz by default. If you don't overclock your system, it will run at the standard DDR3 speed (1333MHz) in which case you're really just wasting money buying expensive ram and not using it for what its meant.

So if you're not overclocking:
for 16GB of ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233190

I have 8GB which is plenty for what i do (gaming mostly)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145261

Hope you find this helpful
 
Routaran said:
I did a couple google searches and didn't really come up with anything. I realize you probably had your heart set on getting matching stuff but it really doesn't make any difference if you don't have the same branded RAM. As long as the specs match and you buy your ram from a quality manufacturer, everything will be just fine.

If you don't want to wait for the RAM to be back in stock again, here's what I would do.
Get different branded RAM.

Here's the specs on your preferred ram
Size: 4x4GB
Speed: DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)
Timings: 9-11-10-27
Voltage: 1.65

Here's the ram I would get if i was in your shoes.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231563
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231503
Size: 4x4GB
Speed: DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)
Timings: 9-11-10-28
Voltage: 1.65

They are essentially identical, the only difference is 1 clock cycle in tRAS and a bit of difference in packaging. Performance wise, if you're modeling a complex system that will take weeks or months to run, yeah, you might notice some time saving but if you're building a gaming system, you won't be able to tell a difference.

And this is all only relevant if you're overclocking your system and running at those specified speeds and timing. Your memory won't run at 2133MHz by default. If you don't overclock your system, it will run at the standard DDR3 speed (1333MHz) in which case you're really just wasting money buying expensive ram and not using it for what its meant.

So if you're not overclocking:
for 16GB of ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233190

I have 8GB which is plenty for what i do (gaming mostly)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145261

Hope you find this helpful

This looks like a pretty good deal.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007Z1CVIG/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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This ram looks better than the one you were originally looking for from AVEXIR.
It has the same timings but is rated for 1.5v so it should run cooler.

Just keep in mind that if you are not overclocking, then your $130 ram will have the same performance as $50 ram.

but yeah, corsair makes great ram and this should work just fine on your mobo
 
Routaran said:
This ram looks better than the one you were originally looking for from AVEXIR.
It has the same timings but is rated for 1.5v so it should run cooler.

Just keep in mind that if you are not overclocking, then your $130 ram will have the same performance as $50 ram.

but yeah, corsair makes great ram and this should work just fine on your mobo

This 8GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133Mhz dual-channel 1.5V is probably better than the AVEXIR memory, although it doesn't have any LED lights or matching color schemes.

16GB is overkill for gaming, am I correct?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233285
 
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Kutt said:
16GB is overkill for gaming, am I correct?[/url]
For the vast majority of games yeah, 16GB is overkill but there are a couple that would benefit from having that much ram. overall, more ram is better but the gains become smaller and smaller.

I would get 8GB now and see how the system performs and then if needed get another 8GB down the line.

The larger the RAM, greater the amount of data windows will load into its prefetch making the system run faster. But if you already have a solid state drive in your build, then you will have a hard time seeing the difference between 8GB and 16GB of ram because the drive will load stuff so much faster anyway.
 
Routaran said:
For the vast majority of games yeah, 16GB is overkill but there are a couple that would benefit from having that much ram. overall, more ram is better but the gains become smaller and smaller.

I would get 8GB now and see how the system performs and then if needed get another 8GB down the line.

The larger the RAM, greater the amount of data windows will load into its prefetch making the system run faster. But if you already have a solid state drive in your build, then you will have a hard time seeing the difference between 8GB and 16GB of ram because the drive will load stuff so much faster anyway.

I read that games like Metro 2033 can use more than 8GB of memory.
 
Ebay is always an option, they usually have a wide selection of ram. But take care to ensure the specs are compatible with your MB
 
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Chronos said:
Ebay is always an option, they usually have a wide selection of ram. But take care to ensure the specs are compatible with your MB

This is my motherboard, and this is the memory I want.

From your professional perspective, are they fully compatible?

http://us.msi.com/product/mb/Z77-MPOWER.html

RAM
 
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yes they are compatable
msi website says
DDR3 Memory 1066/1333/1600/1866*/2000*/2133*(OC), 2200*/2400*/2600*/2667*/2800*/3000*(OC, 22nm CPU required)

Newegg for the ram says
Type
240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
Speed
DDR3 2133

they will work just fine

I read that games like Metro 2033 can use more than 8GB of memory.
Yes, that's why I said for the vast majority and not all games. There are a handful that can potentially use up that much RAM. You have to look at the game you want to play and then decide but for the vast majority, you don't need 16GB
 
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Yes, that ram will work, but, why not 2400 instead of 2133?
 

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