Is There Irony in OJ Simpson's Verdicts 13 Years Apart?

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The discussion revolves around the irony of O.J. Simpson's verdicts occurring 13 years apart, focusing on the implications of his legal outcomes and the timing of events. Participants explore themes of justice, legal inconsistencies, and the societal perceptions surrounding his cases.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note the irony of the two verdicts being exactly 13 years apart, questioning the significance of this timing.
  • Others suggest that if Simpson had been found guilty in his murder trial, he might have been released around the current time, raising questions about his potential freedom.
  • One participant recalls that Simpson's actions in the later case may have been an attempt to reclaim stolen property, framing it as a complex situation.
  • Another viewpoint expresses agreement with the murder trial verdict due to police conduct, while also feeling that justice was ultimately served in the later case.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the fairness of the legal system, citing inconsistencies in sentencing and outcomes.
  • There is speculation about what sentence Simpson would have received had he been convicted in the murder trial, with differing opinions on potential penalties.
  • A participant emphasizes the lack of innocence to discuss following the guilty verdict in the later case, reflecting on the evidence presented.
  • Another comment reflects on the idea that justice may have been served, albeit for the wrong reasons, suggesting a complex view of Simpson's legal troubles.
  • Some participants engage in a light-hearted wager regarding Simpson's potential eligibility for parole.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the irony and implications of Simpson's verdicts, with no clear consensus on the nature of justice or the legal system's effectiveness. Multiple competing views remain regarding the significance of the timing and the outcomes of both trials.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the specifics of California criminal law and the potential sentences Simpson could have faced, as well as differing interpretations of his actions and their motivations.

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AOL reported that OJ Simpson was found guilty on 12 counts...13 Years to the Day of his other famous verdict...any thoughts on the irony?

I'm not attempting to judge (or comment) on his guilt/innocence.

It merely occurred to me that if he WAS found guilty the first time...he MIGHT have been released right about NOW?

Does anyone know if/when he would have gotten out?
 
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It gets better...13 is a BAD BAD Number

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_re_us/oj_simpson
 
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This story really is way too one-sided. I think I recall the guy he 'stormed into' stole a bunch of stuff that was his and was selling it off. So he went in there to get his stuff back.
 
He took the law into his own hands. He is nothing but a two-bit thug.

I agreed with the verdict in the murder trial because of the actions of the police. The rule of law was the greater imperative. But justice finally found its target. Good riddance.
 
Racist cops YET AGAIN!!
 
Again, the thread is about the irony of the situation and the timing of the event.

Does anyone know when OJ COULD have been eligible for release IF he had been found guilty the first time?

If he'd been locked up...these events wouldn't have been possible...and he'd be free (maybe) now...instead...he might spend the rest of his life in prison for a lesser charge.
 
It seems that the correlation between the facts about the crime and the sentence is not very good in the US.
 
No argument...I just wanted to discuss the irony.
 
I think O.J. would have been convicted to life in jail without parole if found guilty in his murder trial.
 
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That's what I'd like to determine...as you said (more or less)...our system has inconsistencies.

While it was a double homicide, it would also have been a first offense and a clear crime of passion...AND there was clearly public support of him.

I don't think the judge would have given the maximum penalty...if he had a choice.

Hopefully someone knowledgeable about California criminal law will respond.
 
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I don't see why if it was first degree he wouldn't be two consecutive life sentences without parole.
If voluntary manslaughter, then I think max is 10 years US. Not sure if less in cali.
 
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Again, I don't know?
 
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WhoWee said:
AOL reported that OJ Simpson was found guilty on 12 counts...13 Years to the Day of his other famous verdict...any thoughts on the irony?

I'm not attempting to judge (or comment) on his guilt/innocence.

It merely occurred to me that if he WAS found guilty the first time...he MIGHT have been released right about NOW?

Does anyone know if/when he would have gotten out?
He was found guilty so there is no innocence to comment on, and I hope they lock him up and throw away the key. It was a little difficult for him to deny the video and audio evidence from surveillance cameras. He could hardly accuse them of racism.

He was also found culpable of murder in the civil courts for his earlier crime and if the criminal court jury had done their job properly and convicted him as they should have done I doubt he would ever have seen the light of day again.

IMO it's good riddance to bad rubbish.
 
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O.J. Simpson sentenced to at least 15 years

Up to 33.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iUNgbOr-2bnpFUX0MiII6je2CkRAD94SNBQG0
 
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It seems to me that Justice has stumbled across the right result at last but, likely for a lot of wrong reasons, and certainly without any particular glory.

Apparently the narcissist Simpson just couldn't manage to not screw up again and fouled another one off. But this time society's catchers mitt finally caught one of his foul ball, after letting another slip away so ingloriously.
 
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Wow! Eligible for parole in 9 years. He'll be 70.

Any bets he gets out his first try?
 
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chemisttree said:
Wow! Eligible for parole in 9 years. He'll be 70.

Any bets he gets out his first try?

Yeah, I'll push that one. $20 says he doesn't. If he is denied, I'll send you a PM in 2017 to collect.

*spits on hand*

Shake?
 

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