Is This Differential Equation Misplaced in the Precalculus Forum?

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation given in the context of a precalculus forum. The equation presented is (x^2+y^2)y'=xy, and participants are examining its classification and the methods for solving it.

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  • Participants discuss attempts to manipulate the equation, including dividing by terms and integrating. There is a focus on identifying the type of differential equation and the appropriate methods for solving it. Questions are raised about the classification of the problem and its placement in the precalculus forum.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the nature of the differential equation and questioning its categorization. There is recognition of the need for clarity in the setup of the problem, but no consensus has been reached regarding the solution or the appropriate forum for such questions.

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Participants note the importance of showing effort in the forum, and there is mention of specific rules regarding problem posting. The classification of the equation as a homogeneous first-order equation is also discussed, indicating a level of complexity that may not align with precalculus topics.

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1.Solve this differential equation



2.(x^2+y^2)y'=xy



3. Thanks
 
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What have you tried? The rules in this forum state that you must show some effort before we'll help you out.
 
Ok mate I have tried it
(x^2+y^2)dy/dx=xy

Divide by [tex]y*(x^2+y^2)[/tex] : 1/y dy/dx= [tex]x/(x^2+y^2)[/tex].

[tex]\int {1/y}[/tex] dy= 1/2[tex]\int {x/(x^2+y^2)}[/tex]

My answer is y=A [tex]\sqrt{x^2+y^2}[/tex].
 
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I don't see how you get that answer from the equation above it.
There are various classes of differential equations that can be solved.
This one is in one of those classes.
It's probably more instructive to search for which class it is in yourself.
 
Can anyone help me please its very important!
 
fan_103 said:
Ok mate I have tried it
(x^2+y^2)dy/dx=xy

Divide by [tex]y*(x^2+y^2)[/tex] : 1/y dy/dx= [tex]x/(x^2+y^2)[/tex].

[tex]\int {1/y}[/tex] dy= 1/2[tex]\int {x/(x^2+y^2)}[/tex]
You don't have a "dx" on the right

My answer is y=A [tex]\sqrt{x^2+y^2}[/tex].
That may seem like a technical point but it would have reminded you that you are integrating on the right with respect to x and y is some (unknown) function of x, not a constant. This is NOT a separable equation- that is you cannot get only x on one side of the equation and only y on the other.

It is, however, a "homogeneous" first order equation. If you divide both sides of the equation by [itex]x^2[/itex], you get
[tex](1+ \left(\frac{y}{x}\right)^2)dy= \frac{y}{x}dx[/tex]
Let u= y/x. Don't for get to replace dy: y= ux so dy= xdu+ udx.

Why was this posted under "Precalculus"?
 
I forgot to write the dx on the right.
Thanks a lot mate!Really appreciate ur effort!

Why was this posted under "Precalculus"? Where should I post these kind of questions...
 
fan_103 said:
I forgot to write the dx on the right.
Thanks a lot mate!Really appreciate ur effort!

Why was this posted under "Precalculus"? Where should I post these kind of questions...


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