Does This Equation Hold in All Commutative Rings?

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The equation (a^3+x)(b^2-y)=a^3(b^2)-ya^3+xb^2-xy is an identity that holds true across all commutative rings, including whole numbers, rational numbers, real numbers, and complex numbers. It is essential to express the equation correctly, as the terms should respect the commutative property, leading to the more accurate form (a^3+x)(b^2-y)=a^3b^2-a^3y+xb^2-xy. This discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the properties of commutative structures in mathematics, particularly in relation to identities and their applications in various mathematical contexts.

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##(a^3+x)(b^2-y)=a^3(b^2)-ya^3+xb^2-xy##
##(a^3+x)(b^2-y)=a^3(b^2)-ya^3+xb^2-xy##

is this correct for all whole numbers x,y,a,b?
 
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Yes. Even for rational or real numbers.
 
donglepuss said:
is this correct for all whole numbers x,y,a,b?
##(a^3+x)(b^2-y)=a^3(b^2)-ya^3+xb^2-xy##
This equation is a special kind of equation: an identity, one that is true for all values of the variables, whether whole numbers, integers, rationals, reals, or complex numbers. It's even true for square matrices, as long as they are all the same size.

A simpler example of an identity is this: ##a(b + c) = ab + ac##, which is true for any mathematical structures that support multiplication distributing over addition.
 
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Your equation isn't written in its best form. If you compare @Mark44's formula with what you have written, then
donglepuss said:
##(a^3+x)(b^2-y)=a^3(b^2)-ya^3+xb^2-xy##
is a bit inaccurate. There are structures in mathematics which are in general not commutative, rings and algebras. So it is a good habit to learn it by respecting left and right, so it's better to write
##(a^3+x)(b^2-y)=a^3b^2-a^3y+xb^2-xy##
 
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fresh_42 said:
is a bit inaccurate.
I didn't notice that ##a^3## times ##-y## was written as ##-ya^3##, when I mentioned matrix multiplication, which isn't generally commutative.
 
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Notice how the general binomial ##(a+b)^n = \Sigma _{i=0}^n (nCi )x^n y^i ## ; ##nCi## := " n choose i" also assumes commutativity. I think the OP and this identity hold for all commutative rings.
 

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