Is This Function Even or Odd? Help Me Figure It Out!

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining whether the function i*cos(ax)*sin(bx) is even or odd, particularly in the context of its integral over the interval from -1/2 to 1/2. Participants explore the properties of even and odd functions and the implications of the integral being zero.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the function is even because its integral over the specified interval is zero, indicating symmetry around the y-axis.
  • Another participant points out that sine is an odd function and cosine is an even function, leading to the conclusion that their product is odd.
  • A participant clarifies that having an integral equal to zero does not necessarily imply that the function is odd, as there are other scenarios that could result in a zero integral.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of multiplying an odd function by an even function, with a challenge to prove that the product is odd.
  • A later reply mentions a condition under which a continuous function is odd if its integral over symmetric limits is zero, suggesting a mathematical nuance in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the integral being zero, with some agreeing on the properties of even and odd functions while others highlight the need for further verification and proof.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of even and odd functions and the conditions under which the integral being zero applies. The discussion also reflects varying levels of understanding and confidence among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the properties of functions, integral calculus, and mathematical proofs may find this discussion relevant.

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Hey PF. I was wondering if anyone can help me figure out i can tell if certain functions are even or odd. For example, the function i*cos(ax)*sin(bx) when integrated with respect to x between -1/2 and 1/2 is equal to zero. I believe this means that it is even because it is symmetric around the y axis. To do the integration I used wolfram alpha, as this integral is beyond my current understanding, but I'm suppose to be able to do this problem without a computer apparently. This leads me to believe I should be able to tell that the function is even just by looking at it. Can somebody help me out here?
 
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Hi PsychonautQQ! :smile:
PsychonautQQ said:
This leads me to believe I should be able to tell that the function is even just by looking at it.

Yup! :rolleyes:

Hint: what is cos(-ax) ? what is sin(-bx) ? :wink:
 
sine is odd and cosine is even, so the product is odd. So, the integral over [-1/2, 1/2] must be zero.

Note that an integral being 0 doesn't imply the function is odd, as there are other ways for the integral to be 0.
 
so you have an odd * even so the product is odd.. okay i'll take your word for it. The 'i' doesn't complicate the matter?
 
PsychonautQQ said:
so you have an odd * even so the product is odd.. okay i'll take your word for it.

don't be silly! :redface:

never take anybody's word for any maths, check it yourself by working it out, or you'll never understand it or remember it

TO PROVE: if f is even and g is odd, then f*g is odd

PROOF … ? :smile:
 
PeroK said:
Note that an integral being 0 doesn't imply the function is odd, as there are other ways for the integral to be 0.

That said, if [itex]f:[-K,K]\to\mathbb R[/itex] is continuous, then [itex]f[/itex] is odd iff [itex]\int_{-x}^x f = 0[/itex] for every [itex]x\in [0,K][/itex].

That'd be a cute problem set question in 1st-year calc, no?
 
Yes, very cute!
 

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