Is this necessary for showing g≅h? (isomorphism)

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The discussion revolves around the isomorphism between two Lie algebras, \mathfrak{g} and \mathfrak{h}. The original poster seeks clarification on whether it is necessary to demonstrate that a specific basis for \mathfrak{h} satisfies the Lie bracket relations of \mathfrak{g} or if establishing a homomorphism is sufficient for proving the isomorphism.

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  • Participants explore the necessity of demonstrating that the basis of \mathfrak{h} satisfies the Lie bracket relations of \mathfrak{g} versus simply showing that a homomorphism exists. Questions arise about the mapping of basis elements and the implications of the definitions involved in isomorphisms.

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Some participants assert that finding a homomorphism is sufficient for establishing the isomorphism, while others question the need for mapping specific matrices to the basis elements of \mathfrak{g}. The discussion reflects differing interpretations of the requirements for proving the isomorphism.

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There is an emphasis on the definitions of isomorphism and the properties of Lie algebras, as well as the specific structure of the algebras involved. The original poster's approach and the responses suggest varying levels of understanding regarding the implications of the mappings and the necessary conditions for isomorphism.

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• \mathfrak{g} is the Lie algebra with basis vectors E,F,G such that the following relations for Lie brackets are satisfied:

[E,F]=G,\;\;[E,G]=0,\;\;[F,G]=0.

• \mathfrak{h} is the Lie algebra consisting of 3x3 matrices of the form

\begin{bmatrix} 0 & a & c \\ 0 & 0 & b \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix} where a,b,c are any complex numbers. The vector addition and scalar multiplication on \mathfrak{h} are the usual operations on matrices.

The Lie bracket on \mathfrak{h} is defined as the matrix commutator: [X,Y] = XY - YX for any X,Y \in \mathfrak{h}.

If we wanted to show \mathfrak{g} \cong \mathfrak{h} then is it necessary to show that a basis for \mathfrak{h}:

\left\{ E=\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix} , F=\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix} , G=\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 & 1 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix} \right\}

satisfies [E,F]=G,\;[E,G]=0,\;[F,G]=0 (i.e. the lie bracket relations in \mathfrak{g}) or is it enough to find a map \varphi : \mathfrak{g} \to\mathfrak{h} and show it is a homomorphism, linear and bijective? (which I have)
 
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It certainly is enough to find a map (that's the definition of "isomorphism") but how did you do that without showing that the first matrix you show maps to E, the second to F and the third to G? That is, if you have, in fact, found such a \phi, what does it map E, F, and G to?
 
Since the basis vectors define all of g showing that your function maps specific matrices to them is sufficient.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Since the basis vectors define all of g showing that your function maps specific matrices to them is sufficient.

So showing \varphi : \mathfrak{g} \to \mathfrak{h} defined by: \varphi(aE+bF+cG)=\left( \begin{array}{ccc} 0 & a & b\\ 0 & 0 & c\\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{array} \right) satisfies:
(i) \varphi ([aE+bF+cG,a'E+b'F+c'G])=[\varphi (aE+bF+cG),\varphi (a'E+b'F+c'G)]
(ii) linear transformation
(iii) bijective

is all I need to show to prove \mathfrak{g} \cong \mathfrak{h}?
 

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