Is This Reduction Reaction Equation Correct?

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The discussion revolves around the correctness of a reduction reaction equation involving manganese and sulfur species. Participants explore the balancing of half-reactions, oxidation states, and the overall stoichiometry of the reaction. The focus is on the theoretical aspects of redox reactions in chemistry.

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  • One participant presents an initial reduction reaction equation and requests verification of its correctness.
  • Another participant details the process of separating the reaction into half-reactions, calculating oxidation states, and balancing charges with electrons and H+ ions.
  • A participant questions the final equation presented, pointing out potential issues with sulfur balancing.
  • Subsequent posts involve re-evaluating the half-reaction approach, with one participant attempting to start from a balanced equation and recalculating the necessary steps.
  • There is a mention of using color-coded methods to clarify the problem-solving process, indicating a focus on visual aids for understanding.
  • A participant references an external forum where they claim the problem has been resolved, suggesting a collaborative effort outside the current thread.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the initial equation or the balancing of the reaction. Multiple competing views and approaches are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the final balanced equation.

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There are limitations in the clarity of the half-reaction balancing, particularly concerning the sulfur species. The discussion also reflects uncertainty in the oxidation states and the overall stoichiometry of the reaction.

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Chemistry Reduction Reaction Help Needed: MnO4- + S2- --> MnO2 + S8

I was wondering if I had done this reduction reaction equation correctly:
[tex]MnO_4^-+S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}MnO_2+S_8[/tex]

After going through the reduction reaction problem solving process (I think) I get this equation as the final equation in the reaction:

[tex]2MnO_4^-+3S^{2-}+4H_2O\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+3S_8+8OH^-[/tex]

Does this look correct? Can anyone check? Thanks.
 
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Here is a more detailed explanation of the answer I have

Ok, starting with the original equation:

[tex]MnO_4^-+S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}MnO_2+S_8[/tex]

I then separate into two "half-reactions":

[tex]MnO_4^-\xrightarrow{}MnO_2[/tex]

[tex]S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}S_8[/tex]

Figureing the oxidation charge for the left side of the first "half-reaction":

[tex]X-8+1=0\xrightarrow{}X=7[/tex]

Therefore, the oxidation number of Mn on the left side is 7, right?

Then I do the right side of the first "half-reaction":

[tex]X-4=0\xrightarrow{}X=4[/tex]

This means that the oxidation number of Mn on the right side is 4. Meaning that I have to add 3 electrons to the left side of the first "half-reaction" equation, right?:

[tex]MnO_4^-+3e^-\xrightarrow{}MnO_2[/tex]

Now, I added H+ ions to the left side to bring it's overall charge down to zero, because the right side has an overall charge of zero:

[tex]MnO_4^-+3e^-+4H^+\xrightarrow{}MnO_2[/tex]

Finally, I add H2O to even out the oxygens in the first "half-reaction" equation:

[tex]MnO_4^-+3e^-+4H^+\xrightarrow{}MnO_2+2H_2O[/tex]

Going on to the second of the two "half-reaction" equations:

[tex]S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}S_8[/tex]

The oxidation number for the left hand side of the second "half-reaction" equation is -2 and for the right side it is 0, right? So then I added 2 electrons to the right side of the second "half-reaction" equation:

[tex]S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}S_8+2e^-[/tex]

I then multiply the two results from the "half-reaction" equations in order to eliminate the electrons:

[tex](MnO_4^-+3e^-+4H^+\xrightarrow{}MnO_2+2H_2O)*2=2MnO_4^-+6e^-+8H^+\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+4H_2O[/tex]

[tex](S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}S_8+2e^-)*3=3S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}3S_8+6e^-[/tex]

Adding them together, I get:

[tex]2MnO_4^-+3S^{2-}+8H^+\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+3S_8+4H_2O[/tex]

Finally, I add OH- to balance and eliminate the H2O's on the right side:

[tex]2MnO_4^-+3S^{2-}+8H^++8OH^-\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+3S_8+4H_2O+8OH^-[/tex]

[tex]2MnO_4^-+3S^{2-}+8H_2O\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+3S_8+4H_2O[/tex]

[tex]2MnO_4^-+3S^{2-}+4H_2O^+\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+3S_8+8OH^-[/tex]

Does this seem reasonable?
 
your final line: [itex]... 4H_2O^{+}[/itex] ?

and the sulfur is not balanced.
 
How do I balance the equation then? Did I do the "half-reaction" equations correctly?

Do you see where I made a mistake?

Thanks again.
 
Redoing the problem

I did it again by starting with an actual balanced equation:eek:

Ok, starting with the original equation (now balanced):

[tex]MnO_4^-+8S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}MnO_2+S_8[/tex]

I then separate into two "half-reactions":

[tex]MnO_4^-\xrightarrow{}MnO_2[/tex]

[tex]8S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}S_8[/tex]

Figureing the oxidation charge for the left side of the first "half-reaction":

[tex]X-8+1=0\xrightarrow{}X=7[/tex]

Therefore, the oxidation number of Mn on the left side is 7, right?

Then I do the right side of the first "half-reaction":

[tex]X-4=0\xrightarrow{}X=4[/tex]

This means that the oxidation number of Mn on the right side is 4. Meaning that I have to add 3 electrons to the left side of the first "half-reaction" equation, right?:

[tex]MnO_4^-+3e^-\xrightarrow{}MnO_2[/tex]

Now, I added H+ ions to the left side to bring it's overall charge down to zero, because the right side has an overall charge of zero:

[tex]MnO_4^-+3e^-+4H^+\xrightarrow{}MnO_2[/tex]

Finally, I add H2O to even out the oxygens in the first "half-reaction" equation:

[tex]MnO_4^-+3e^-+4H^+\xrightarrow{}MnO_2+2H_2O[/tex]

Going on to the second of the two "half-reaction" equations:

[tex]8S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}S_8[/tex]

The oxidation number for the left hand side of the second "half-reaction" equation is -2 and for the right side it is 0, right? So then I added 2 electrons to the right side of the second "half-reaction" equation:

[tex]8S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}S_8+2e^-[/tex]

I then multiply the two results from the "half-reaction" equations in order to eliminate the electrons:

[tex](MnO_4^-+3e^-+4H^+\xrightarrow{}MnO_2+2H_2O)*2=2MnO_4^-+6e^-+8H^+\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+4H_2O[/tex]

[tex](8S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}S_8+16e^-)*3=24S^{2-}\xrightarrow{}3S_8+48e^-[/tex]

Adding them together, I get:

[tex]2MnO_4^-+24S^{2-}+8H^+\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+3S_8+4H_2O[/tex]

Finally, I add OH- to balance and eliminate the H2O's on the right side:

[tex]2MnO_4^-+24S^{2-}+8H^++8OH^-\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+3S_8+4H_2O+8OH^-[/tex]

[tex]2MnO_4^-+24S^{2-}+8H_2O\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+3S_8+4H_2O+8OH^-[/tex]

[tex]2MnO_4^-+24S^{2-}+4H_2O^+\xrightarrow{}2MnO_2+3S_8+8OH^-[/tex]

Does this seem reasonable?
 
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