Is This Sophomore Fall Schedule Packed with Programming and Technical Courses?

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The discussion centers around the appropriateness and difficulty of a sophomore fall semester schedule that includes courses in calculus, physics, statics, thermodynamics, and engineering computation. Participants explore the implications of this course load in terms of mathematical prerequisites and programming skills, with a focus on the challenges posed by thermodynamics and the relevance of programming in engineering education.

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  • Some participants express concern about the difficulty of thermodynamics, suggesting it may require knowledge of partial differential equations, which could make it a challenging course for sophomores.
  • Others note that their experience with thermodynamics was manageable, depending on the level of the course and the student's comfort with the material.
  • One participant shares their experience with differential equations, indicating it was easier for them than thermodynamics, highlighting individual differences in comfort with various subjects.
  • There is a discussion about the content of calculus 3, with some participants suggesting that it revisits concepts from calculus 1 and 2 but applies them to multiple variables.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of programming skills in engineering, with some participants advocating for its importance across technical fields, while others question the requirement for non-computer science majors.
  • Participants mention that engineering computation classes may involve programming in languages like Matlab, which could be beneficial for students in various engineering disciplines.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the difficulty of the proposed course load, particularly regarding thermodynamics. There are multiple competing views on the necessity and relevance of programming skills for engineering students, indicating a lack of agreement on this topic as well.

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Participants reference varying prerequisites and experiences at different universities, which may influence their perspectives on the courses discussed. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about the difficulty of courses and the relevance of programming in engineering education.

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Sophomore fall semester:
Calc 3
Physics 2 (Electricity/Magnetism) / Lab
Statics
Thermodynamics
Engineering Computation
18 credits.
All classes have a recitation component.
What do you guys think?
 
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That'll probably depend on the level of Thermodynamics. At my university, that is not taken by sophomores. You need to be comfortable with partial differential equations, so it's a junior/senior level class.

Even if it's some sort of lower level thermodynamics, it looks like a very difficult courseload unless you're exceptionally good at math.
 
@Jack, now I don't want to take it next year lol hearing that from you. And now I also understand why the average for that course is always 51% or 49% sometimes because no one knows PD lol
 
Its basically what I did this semester except I did Diff Eq instead of Thermo. Which for me is a lot easier since I like Diff Eq and I'm good at math.

So a lot of that depends on Thermo and how much work you need to put into it / how good you are at it (if you enjoy it). At our school its like the first class MechEs take so I doubt its got heavy PDE use if its the same for you. Though at my school Physics 2 and ODE are prereqs. So...

I assume Eng. Comp class is a simple numerical methods/matlab type class? Shouldnt be too much a problem. Statics is a bit annoying but not very hard if you stay on top of it (which I didnt ^_^).
 
How is calc 3? The last calculus class I've had, calculus 2, was 2 semesters ago. How much of calculus 2 is in calculus 3, if that makes any sense? I had no trouble with calculus 2, but should I go over some stuff during the summer before jumping into calculus 3?
 
Part of calc 3 is going back over Calc 1/2 but with multiple variables this time. So you'll need to know your differentiation and integration rules. Generally I didnt see anything too complicated so you should be able to pick things up quite quickly. Might be good to go over some basic product/quotient rules, chain rule and u-substitution. Occasionally I had to use integration by parts or trig subs but I'd had to reference back to remember.Shouldnt be a problem if you understood it well the first time, a quick reference should refresh you memory.
 
One more question. The description for Engineering Computation states that I will be learning some basic programming concepts. Why would this be necessary if I'm not a computer science/computer engineering major?
 
Programming is an important skill in all technical fields. I'm surprised you didnt have to take any programming classes prior to that. All Engineers, Physicists and even math majors have to take a class in programming in my school.

I'm not to sure about that particular class but my version of that class (we call it Modern Computational Methods) uses Matlab heavily. Its not particularly complicated or refined programming but Matlab has similar syntax to C.

I'm not to sure on the specifics on that, I myself am taking that class in Fall.
 
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