Will I be able to manage this course load?

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of a second-year physics major's course load for the upcoming fall semester. Participants explore the implications of taking multiple rigorous courses, including calculus, physics, and a seminar, while expressing concerns about potential burnout and time management.

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  • One participant outlines their course load, expressing concern about managing the intensity and aiming for high grades.
  • Another participant shares personal experiences, noting that course load management varies by individual capability and work ethic.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of personal study effectiveness over the number of hours spent studying.
  • Questions arise regarding the rationale for taking Calculus III and ODE simultaneously, with one participant noting their university's unusual course numbering system.
  • Comparative insights are provided about typical second-year physics programs at other universities, suggesting variations in course structure and workload.
  • A participant discusses their own intensive course load and strategies for effective studying, including contacting professors for preparatory material.
  • There is a discussion about the memorization of mathematical identities, with differing opinions on the importance of memorization versus understanding derivations.

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Participants express a range of opinions on the manageability of the proposed course load, with no clear consensus on whether it is reasonable or too demanding. Individual experiences and study habits are highlighted, indicating that perspectives on workload and study effectiveness vary significantly.

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Some participants mention specific course structures and expectations that may differ by university, indicating that the discussion is context-dependent and influenced by institutional practices.

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Students considering similar course loads in physics or related fields, as well as those seeking advice on study strategies and time management in rigorous academic programs.

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So this is what my course load is going to look like for my fall of second year as a physics major.

math 251= Calculus 3
phys 211= Intermediate mechanics
phys 201= just some weekly seminar that "expose students majoring in any Physics program to opportunities available with a physics degree " and it's a pass or fail class so I don't think there's any studying/homework or exam involved.
phys 255= Vibrations and waves
math 310= ODE's
phys 231= 2nd year fall physics lab

Do you guys think that this is a reasonable schedule? I assume that I will have no social life at all during this semester, but I'm ok with that. My goal is to get a "good grade"(in the A ranges) in all of these courses, and I'm not sure if this schedule will lead me to some nightmarish burnout. I have no electives at all and I can't really afford to not take any of these classes for the fall.
 
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Zack K said:
Will I be able to manage this course load?
I have no idea. Will you? I once took a heavier load than that and managed it just fine but a friend of mine took 1 hour less and had to drop a class. It's entirely up to you whether you can or not.
 
phinds said:
I have no idea. Will you? I once took a heavier load than that and managed it just fine but a friend of mine took 1 hour less and had to drop a class. It's entirely up to you whether you can or not.
How many hours a week would you say you spent studying? I have a pretty good work ethic during the week(though I do tend to get a bit lazy during the weekends).
 
Zack K said:
How many hours a week would you say you spent studying? I have a pretty good work ethic during the week(though I do tend to get a bit lazy during the weekends).
I don't recall any exact number, just that I had to cut back on my late night chat sessions w/ my friends and skip some of the Friday and Sat. night beer get-togethers. I already always studied on Sat and Sun afternoons so that was not problem but I did miss seeing as much of my friends.
 
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Zack K said:
How many hours a week would you say you spent studying? I have a pretty good work ethic during the week(though I do tend to get a bit lazy during the weekends).
You cannot base your estimate on how long others have spent studying. There are people who just show up to class and the information gets ingrained into their minds. There are others who struggle to keep up with the most basic of curricula even though they spend a significant amount of their time studying. It comes down to study effectiveness and personal affinity for the subject matter.
 
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Looks like a pretty typical 2nd year physics time table to me but why are you doing Calc III and ODE in the same semester? Also isn't there a 200 level ODE course?
 
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gwnorth said:
why are you doing Calc III and ODE in the same semester?
I'm not entirely sure, but I guess it's because we did some ODE's in Calc 2 and they see fit that we start ODE's as well as Calc 3.
gwnorth said:
Also isn't there a 200 level ODE course?
No ours starts off at level 300 for some reason. My uni is weird in that there are some courses that are listed as a level x course, but are usually taken a year before. For example, our introductory linear algebra course is listed as a level 200 course, but it's usually meant to be taken in your first year.
 
Well just for comparison, Physics programs at universities in Ontario for 2nd year generally go:

1st Semester 18-21 hrs/wk
Electricity & Magnetism I (3x1hr lecture + 1x3hr lab every other week)
Modern Physics (3x1hr lecture)
Scientific Computing (2x1hr lecture + 2x1hr lab)
Calculus III (3x1hr lecture + 1x1hr tutorial)
Free Elective (usually 4 hrs)

2nd Semester 20-24 hrs/wk
Electricity & Magnetism II (3x1hr lecture + 1x3hr lab every other week)
Mechanics (3x1hr lecture)
Thermodynamics (3x1hr lecture + 1x3hr lab + 1x1hr tutorial every other week)
Ordinary Differential Equations (3x1hr lecture + 1x1hr tutorial)
Free Elective (usually 4 hours)
 
I’m taking a fairly intensive course load this fall as well; Calc II (4hrs), General Physics (4hrs), General Chem (4hrs), Linear Algebra (3hrs), and C++ Programming (3hrs); and have been getting opinions from others about if it is doable.

One piece of advise I’ve gotten repeatedly is to revise how I study. I’m currently reading Alcock’s How To Study For A Mathematics Degree, completed Polya’s How To Solve It last week and will be doing more research to effectively use my time once the semester begins.

Additionally, I’ve contacted all my professors and some have replied with list of material to review as well as list of things that just need to be memorized; such as trig formulas for Calc II and ion names and formulas for Chemistry.

I think the semester will be tough, but start making efficient use of your time now and know your withdrawal deadline if everything goes south.

Best of luck!
 
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NotGauss said:
I’m taking a fairly intensive course load this fall as well; Calc II (4hrs), General Physics (4hrs), General Chem (4hrs), Linear Algebra (3hrs), and C++ Programming (3hrs); and have been getting opinions from others about if it is doable.

One piece of advise I’ve gotten repeatedly is to revise how I study. I’m currently reading Alcock’s How To Study For A Mathematics Degree, completed Polya’s How To Solve It last week and will be doing more research to effectively use my time once the semester begins.

Additionally, I’ve contacted all my professors and some have replied with list of material to review as well as list of things that just need to be memorized; such as trig formulas for Calc II and ion names and formulas for Chemistry.

I think the semester will be tough, but start making efficient use of your time now and know your withdrawal deadline if everything goes south.

Best of luck!
Thanks for the reply, I'll definitely be sure to check those readings out. Good luck and welcome to Physics Forums!
 
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Out of curiosity are you at SFU?
 
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NotGauss said:
I’m taking a fairly intensive course load this fall as well; Calc II (4hrs), General Physics (4hrs), General Chem (4hrs), Linear Algebra (3hrs), and C++ Programming (3hrs); and have been getting opinions from others about if it is doable.

One piece of advise I’ve gotten repeatedly is to revise how I study. I’m currently reading Alcock’s How To Study For A Mathematics Degree, completed Polya’s How To Solve It last week and will be doing more research to effectively use my time once the semester begins.

Additionally, I’ve contacted all my professors and some have replied with list of material to review as well as list of things that just need to be memorized; such as trig formulas for Calc II and ion names and formulas for Chemistry.

I think the semester will be tough, but start making efficient use of your time now and know your withdrawal deadline if everything goes south.

Best of luck!
you can actually derive all of the trig identities in less than 3 min...
 
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MidgetDwarf said:
you can actually derive all of the trig identities in less than 3 min...

If you use something a lot, it's worth memorising. But I agree. Especially using properties of the complex exponential the formulas are very straightforward.
 
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Math_QED said:
If you use something a lot, it's worth memorising. But I agree. Especially using properties of the complex exponential the formulas are very straightforward.
true, but sometimes as we progress in our education, we may forget things that we once memorized. I am of the learn how to do something "from scratch" type. If you do it once, you can do it again,
 
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gwnorth said:
Out of curiosity are you at SFU?

According to @Zack K 's previous posts, he is a university student in Canada, and the course descriptions do match SFU's physics and math department courses, so he probably is a student SFU.

Note: For those outside of Canada, SFU stands for Simon Fraser University in the province of British Columbia in Canada.
 

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