I Is this the only form of the Minkowski metric?

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The discussion centers on the Minkowski metric for inertial observers, expressed as ds² = -c² dt² + dx² + dy² + dz², and whether off-diagonal terms in the metric would affect the speed of light as perceived by these observers. Participants explore the implications of introducing off-diagonal elements, suggesting that such modifications could lead to light traveling at speeds different from c. They emphasize that while any observer can choose various coordinate systems, only specific ones accurately represent inertial frames, particularly in flat Minkowski spacetime. The conversation also touches on the mathematical conditions required for a coordinate system to maintain constant velocity for free particles, ultimately concluding that the assumption of light traveling at the same speed in all directions is crucial for maintaining the standard form of the Minkowski metric. The thread highlights the complexity of the relationship between coordinate systems and the physical interpretation of spacetime metrics.
  • #31
kent davidge said:
the additional assumption that should be made is that light travels with the same speed in all directions. This is enough to kill off the non diagonal terms in the metric.

It's certainly sufficient, but it's stronger than necessary. Try considering my previous post first. (Hint: the geodesic equation applies to null geodesics, that light travels on, as well.)
 
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  • #32
PeterDonis said:
for all possible combinations of indices ##\beta## and ##\gamma##
but what if say, ##dx^1 / d\tau = 0##? Then ##\Gamma^\alpha{}_{1 \delta}## could be different from zero.
 
  • #33
kent davidge said:
what if say, ##dx^1 / d\tau = 0##? Then ##\Gamma^\alpha{}_{1 \delta}## could be different from zero

Free particles can travel in all directions, and you must meet the conditions for all possible 4-velocities for a free particle. That means you can't pick out any particular component of ##dx / d\tau## and say it's zero. You must allow for the possibility of all of them being nonzero (because there are free particle 4-velocities for which all of them are nonzero).
 
  • #34
PeterDonis said:
Free particles can travel in all directions, and you must meet the conditions for all possible 4-velocities for a free particle. That means you can't pick out any particular component of ##dx / d\tau## and say it's zero. You must allow for the possibility of all of them being nonzero (because there are free particle 4-velocities for which all of them are nonzero).
Ah, I got it. But since the ##\Gamma## are a sum of derivatives of the metric, wouldn't ##\Gamma = 0## only imply that the sum of these terms is zero? (And not necessarily the terms themselves, that is, the derivatives).
 
  • #35
kent davidge said:
since the ##\Gamma## are a sum of derivatives of the metric, wouldn't ##\Gamma = 0## only imply that the sum of these terms is zero?

For a single ##\Gamma##, yes, that's all you could conclude. But we have that all of the ##\Gamma## are zero.
 

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