Is this too much for a semester?

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The discussion revolves around the course load of a university student entering their final year, specifically whether taking five advanced courses in physics and mathematics is manageable. The courses include Quantum Mechanics II, Nuclear and Particle Physics, Mathematical Methods in Physics, PDE, and Abstract Algebra. Participants explore the implications of this workload on academic performance and understanding of the material.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a similar course load can be manageable based on personal experiences, indicating that it is possible to succeed with hard work.
  • Others express concern about the intensity of the load and recommend considering the risk to grades, emphasizing the importance of pacing and depth of understanding.
  • A participant argues for a four-year graduation plan to allow for a more thorough education and adequate time for research projects, citing a peer who graduated in three years as under-prepared.
  • There is a suggestion that Mathematical Methods and PDE may have significant overlap, which could affect the perceived workload.
  • A professor's recommendation to drop PDE due to the heavy load and overlap with Mathematical Methods is mentioned, but the original poster expresses a desire to keep PDE for its importance in higher-level physics.
  • The original poster indicates a strong desire to achieve high grades, specifically aiming for A's or at least B+'s in all courses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the proposed course load is manageable. While some share positive experiences with similar loads, others caution against the risks involved, highlighting differing opinions on the optimal approach to course selection and academic pacing.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential overlap between Mathematical Methods and PDE, which may influence the workload and learning experience. The discussion reflects varying educational structures, as the original poster is constrained by a three-year program outside of the U.S.

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Starting my third and final year of university next week, and these are the courses I plan to take:

Quantum Mechanics II (Perturbation theory, Scattering theory, Variational principle, etc. Basically second half of Griffiths)

Nuclear and Particle Physics

Mathematical Methods in Physics

PDE

Abstract Algebra
Does this seem manageable, given that I want to do well in all courses? Or should I drop a course?

Any input appreciated. Thanks!
 
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I know of at least one person who did just fine with a similarly intense load, in fact more intense.

However, you need to ask yourself whether or not you're willing to risk your grades, and what's the lowest you can stake and still progress towards your goals. Just my two cents.
 
You should be fine. That being said, why are you only taking three years to graduate? A much better plan, in my opinion, is to take a full four years. You can fit more total knowledge in and take it at a better pace. This ensures you can spend adequate time on each class to both learn the material in great detail as well as do well in the class. It also gives you more time to complete a senior research project. There is at least one person in my graduate program that got his undergraduate degree in three years. He was comparatively under-prepared relative to most of us.
 
I may be wrong here but wouldn't the math methods and PDE's classes have a lot of overlap? Last semester I took 3 of the 5 classes you mentioned (QM II, PDE and Abstract Algebra). My fourth one was E&M I. I felt like I could have taken a fifth not-so difficult class since I did have some free time. I initially started out with GR as a fifth class but that made the load a lot heavier so I had to drop that one. So I would say its doable if you work your butt off.
 
Thanks to all for the replies.
Arsenic&Lace said:
I know of at least one person who did just fine with a similarly intense load, in fact more intense.

However, you need to ask yourself whether or not you're willing to risk your grades, and what's the lowest you can stake and still progress towards your goals. Just my two cents.

Well I want to get absolutely nothing lower than a B+. Preferably all in the A range.
ZombieFeynman said:
You should be fine. That being said, why are you only taking three years to graduate? A much better plan, in my opinion, is to take a full four years. You can fit more total knowledge in and take it at a better pace. This ensures you can spend adequate time on each class to both learn the material in great detail as well as do well in the class. It also gives you more time to complete a senior research project. There is at least one person in my graduate program that got his undergraduate degree in three years. He was comparatively under-prepared relative to most of us.

I would love to have four years, but unfortunately I can't, as I'm not studying in America and there are only 3 years of university where I'm from.

ahsanxr said:
I may be wrong here but wouldn't the math methods and PDE's classes have a lot of overlap? Last semester I took 3 of the 5 classes you mentioned (QM II, PDE and Abstract Algebra). My fourth one was E&M I. I felt like I could have taken a fifth not-so difficult class since I did have some free time. I initially started out with GR as a fifth class but that made the load a lot heavier so I had to drop that one. So I would say its doable if you work your butt off.

Yes there is quite a bit of overlap between PDE and Math Methods, which make it kind of like I'm actually taking four and a half courses :-p.

I've emailed a professor and he recommends me dropping PDE, as he said 5 PHYS/MATH courses is a little heavy, and since there is overlap with Math Methods. But I don't really want to, as PDE is so important in higher level physics that I want a relatively more comprehensive study on it. And besides, the fact that it has overlap actually makes it more encouraging to take it as well, as I can learn and receive the credits of two courses but probably with less work.
 

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