Is Trimethylborazine Explosive or Toxic?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the potential hazards associated with trimethylborazine (CAS 1004-35-9), specifically whether it is explosive or toxic. Participants explore various claims and seek clarification on safety information before considering its use in experiments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the hazards of trimethylborazine and seeks pointers on its safety.
  • Another participant provides a link to a chemical resource, although the reliability of the information is questioned.
  • A participant mentions wanting to ensure safety before ordering the chemical, indicating a cautious approach to experimentation.
  • Concerns are raised about discrepancies in the linked resource, specifically the confusion between trimethylborazine and borazine.
  • Some participants reference publications suggesting that trimethylborazine is not toxic or explosive, while others recall that borazine itself may be explosive.
  • A participant notes their boss's concerns about safety, emphasizing the need for a solid case regarding the safety of trimethylborazine before proceeding with experiments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the safety of trimethylborazine, with multiple competing views regarding its toxicity and explosiveness remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the available information, including potential discrepancies in safety data and the need for material safety data sheets from vendors. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the chemical's properties and safety regulations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for researchers or practitioners considering the use of trimethylborazine in experiments, as well as those interested in chemical safety and hazard assessment.

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I'm looking for potential hazards of trimethylborazine (CAS 1004-35-9). I can't seem to find any, but some people claim that it is explosive or so. Any pointers ?

thanks!
 
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Seems pretty http://www.chemicalland21.com/specialtychem/nh/1,3,5-TRIMETHYLBORAZINE.htm"
 
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Thanks. It's what I thought, but before I order it, I wanted to get an idea where I put my feet :smile:
 
Something seems to be a little bit off on the page cronxeh linked to - while the upper part states trimethylborazine, desciption below states just borazine.
 
Don't know what the particular law is where you are, Vanesch, but in North America the vendor must give you anhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_safety_data_sheet" on request, which will disclose any hazards, as well as physical properties.

According to Wiki, these documents are called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_and_Safety_Statements" . But I'm not sure if the vendors are required to supply them; I'd request one when you order it.
 
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Borek said:
Something seems to be a little bit off on the page cronxeh linked to - while the upper part states trimethylborazine, desciption below states just borazine.

Yes. In the mean time, I've found some publications where people talk about the advantages of using TMB because "at least it isn't a toxic or explosive liquid"...

On the other hand, I thought that borazine itself was pretty explosive...

In fact, the point is, I want to do something with it, but my boss warned me that he doesn't want "a crazy experiment which puts people at danger" and if I can't make my case about the safety even before ordering the stuff, he'll stop me right there. What I want to do, others have done similar things, but with much more dangerous stuff.
 

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