Is trying to go into fusion realistic at this point?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and timeline of fusion energy development, particularly in the context of pursuing a career in fusion versus renewable energy engineering. Participants explore various aspects of fusion research, including the current state of projects like ITER and the potential for magnetic versus inertial confinement approaches.

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  • One participant expresses skepticism about the future of fusion energy, citing pessimistic views from sources like the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, and questions the practicality of pursuing a career in fusion given the long timelines involved.
  • Another participant provides a timeline for ITER and its successor DEMO, suggesting that commercial fusion reactors may not be operational before 2070, which raises concerns about career planning in this field.
  • There is a suggestion that focusing on renewable energy engineering, such as solar or geothermal, may be a more immediate way to contribute to climate change solutions.
  • Some participants mention previous discussions on the topic and suggest searching the forum for more insights.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the viability of fusion energy as a career path. There are competing views on the timelines and potential of fusion projects, with some expressing doubt and others providing timelines that suggest a longer wait for practical applications.

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The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the timelines of fusion energy projects and the implications for career choices in energy engineering. There are references to the challenges of predicting the future of technology development and the potential for shifts in career paths.

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Hi guys,
I posted about a closely related subject earlier, but with more and more research, all I have found regarding fusion energy is pure pessimism, and that it will always be a theoretical hope that just won’t happen. For example, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists basically says that international projects such as ITER are just using a ton of fossil fuel energy, and their results aren’t even sufficient (not to mention they’re still like 15-20 years away). With that in mind, my fusion energy study ambitions have exponentially fallen, and I’m wondering if it might just be more practical if I go into some sort of renewable energy engineering such as solar engineering, geothermal engineering, wind turbine engineering, or tidal wave (hydroelectric) engineering? Fusion power very much interests me, but if it’s just a theoretical concept not likely to happen within the next 20-40 years, then what’s the point, is basically the conclusion I’ve reached. However, if the Bulletin and other sources are being overly critical and pessimistic, then which sort of fusion research would be more promising to go into - magnetic confinement, or inertial confinement? From what I understand, magnetic confinement uses magnetohydrodynamics and tokamaks, and inertial confinement is laser-based. I can’t find very many clear or credible answers online of which is more promising.

Thanks!
 
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There have been some discussions about it here. Have you tried a forum search?
 
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Suppose you ignore the timelines of the opponents, many of whom have axes to grind, and only look at the timeline of the proponents.
  1. ITER started in 2006 with a planned 2016 start.
  2. The first plasma experiments are now planned for 2025 with D-T fusion starting in 2035.
  3. The ITER successor, DEMO is planned to have construction begin in 2030 and have electricity generation in 2048. This was based on a 2016 start of ITER, so with no additional delays, just sliding the schedule gives a 2057 start.
From that, your guess is as good as mine as to when a commercial reactor would come on line. I don't see this as happening before 2070. One way to look at this is that few careers have such a timeline planned out so far in advance. Most careers zig and zag in unplanned directions.
 
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phinds said:
There have been some discussions about it here. Have you tried a forum search?
I was unaware there were - where can I find them?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Suppose you ignore the timelines of the opponents, many of whom have axes to grind, and only look at the timeline of the proponents.
  1. ITER started in 2006 with a planned 2016 start.
  2. The first plasma experiments are now planned for 2025 with D-T fusion starting in 2035.
  3. The ITER successor, DEMO is planned to have construction begin in 2030 and have electricity generation in 2048. This was based on a 2016 start of ITER, so with no additional delays, just sliding the schedule gives a 2057 start.
From that, your guess is as good as mine as to when a commercial reactor would come on line. I don't see this as happening before 2070. One way to look at this is that few careers have such a timeline planned out so far in advance. Most careers zig and zag in unplanned directions.
Okay, so since I’m focused on a timely (as in next 15-20 years) way to fight climate change and do something with renewable energy, the solar or geothermal route might be the way to go. Thanks!
 
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I was unaware there were - where can I find them?
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