Is Velocity Equal to Work Divided by Impulse in Physics?

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The discussion clarifies the relationship between work, impulse, and velocity in classical mechanics. It establishes that work (W) is defined as W = F * Δd and impulse (I) as I = F * Δt, leading to the conclusion that dividing work by impulse simplifies to Δd / Δt, which equals velocity (v). The conversation also touches on the energy-momentum relationship for photons, stating E = pc, and emphasizes that the equation v ≠ Work/Impulse is valid due to the distinction between momentum (p) and mass (m). The discussion highlights the importance of understanding these concepts within the framework of classical mechanics.

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  • Understanding of classical mechanics principles, particularly work and impulse.
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  • Awareness of the distinction between momentum (p) and mass (m) in physics.
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  • Study the derivation and implications of the equations W = F * Δd and I = F * Δt.
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  • Investigate the differences between classical mechanics and relativistic physics.
  • Learn about the implications of mass-energy equivalence, specifically E = mc².
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Since Work = F*delta(d) and Impulse = F*delta(t) then dividing work over impulse, through simple cancellation of F we can say that it is now equal to delta d / delta t which is equal to velocity right? My question is, does this make sense "physics-wise" since I onlu arrived at my answer through cancellations?
 
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Hi lonely:

Your equations should be:
delta(Work) = F*delta(d)
delta(Impulse) = F*delta(t)​

delta(Work) is an infinitesimal of Work = an infinitesimal of energy = ΔE
delta(Impulse) is an infinitesimal of Impulse = an infinitesimal of momentum = Δp​

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In empty space, the photon moves at c (the speed of light) and its energy and momentum are related by E = pc, where p is the https://www.physicsforums.com/javascript:void(0) of the momentum vector p.

Consider a photon which has momentum p and energy pc.
The result of dividing the photon's energy by its momentum gives its velocity c.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Buzz
 
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E = pc is the same as E = (mc)c --> E = mc^2 right? I still haven't encountered relativity so I'm not quite familiar with that famous equation but I think through your answer, it made sense. Thanks.
 
lonelypancreas said:
Since Work = F*delta(d) and Impulse = F*delta(t) then dividing work over impulse, through simple cancellation of F we can say that it is now equal to delta d / delta t which is equal to velocity right? My question is, does this make sense "physics-wise" since I onlu arrived at my answer through cancellations?

If you have ##KE = \frac{1}{2}mv^2## and ##p = mv##, then

##\frac{KE}{p} = \frac{1}{2}v##

And:

##KE = \frac{p^2}{2m}##

You might like to think about why

##v \ne Work/Impulse##
 
lonelypancreas said:
E = pc is the same as E = (mc)c --> E = mc^2 right?

No, because p ≠ mc.

The general relativistic relationship between energy, momentum and (rest) mass is E2 = (pc)2 + (mc2)2. Set m = 0 and you get E = pc.
 
Given this was a post on classical mechanics in the Classical Physics section, I'm not sure how we ended up talking about relativity!
 
PeroK said:
Given this was a post on classical mechanics in the Classical Physics section, I'm not sure how we ended up talking about relativity!

Because this is PF. You can't write down an inclined plane problem without someone chiming in about GR.
 
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