Is y = | x | - 2 Symmetric About the x-axis, y-axis, or Origin?

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The discussion centers on determining the symmetry of the function y = |x| - 2. It is established that this function is symmetric about the y-axis, as demonstrated by the equality f(-x) = f(x). The tests for symmetry about the x-axis and origin reveal that the function does not exhibit those symmetries. The forum participants emphasize the importance of understanding the properties of absolute values and their implications for symmetry in mathematical functions.

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Test for symmetry about the x-axis, y-axis and origin.

y = | x | - 2

What are the rules for testing for symmetry?
 
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On this forum you are supposed to show an attempted solution or at least describe the difficulty. Surely you can plot the first graph: there is nothing that requires ingenuity about it.

In general the equation f(|g(x,y)|) = 0 for any functions f and g is equivalent to the following:
\[
\left\{\begin{aligned}f(g(x,y))&=0\\g(x,y)&\ge0\end{aligned}\right.\quad\text{or}\quad
\left\{\begin{aligned}f(-g(x,y))&=0\\g(x,y)&<0\end{aligned}\right.
\]

To make |x + y| = 2 a special case of f(|g(x,y)|) = 0 we define f(x) = x - 2 and g(x,y) = x + y; then f(|g(x,y)|) = 0 is |x + y| - 2 = 0. According to the statement above, it is equivalent to
\[
\left\{\begin{aligned}x+y-2&=0\\x+y&\ge0\end{aligned}\right.\quad\text{or}\quad
\left\{\begin{aligned}-(x+y)-2&=0\\x+y&<0\end{aligned}\right.
\]
So you need to find the set of (x, y) that lie on the line x+y-2 = 0 and also satisfy x + y >= 0, and take the union with the set of (x, y) that lie on the line x+y+2 = 0 and also satisfy x + y < 0.
 
I changed the question. Forget the graph. What are the rules for testing for symmetry?
 
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Forget the graph.

why? ... easiest way to check symmetry is by viewing the graph.
 
If you are going to reply using textbook jargon, then what's the point of asking for guidance? I changed the question. What are the rules for symmetry?
 
y = | x | - 2

-y = | x | - 2

Not symmetric about the x-axis.

y = | -x | - 2

y = x - 2

Not symmetric about the y-axis.

-y = | -x | - 2

-y = x - 2

Not symmetric about the origin.
 
Let:

$$f(x)=y=|x|-2$$

We find:

$$f(-x)=|-x|-2=|x|-2=y=f(x)$$

Thus, this function is symmetric about the $y$-axis. No further tests for symmetry are needed. :D
 
I thought the | -x | = x.

Does | x | = x?

Are you saying that y = | x | - 2 means y = x - 2?
 
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RTCNTC said:
I thought the | -x | = x.

Does | x | = x?

We can correctly state:

$$|x|=|-x|$$

But, we can only state:

$$|x|=x$$

if:

$$0\le x$$

Or we can state:

$$|x|=-x$$

if:

$$x<0$$
 
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How is | x | = | -x |?

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Absolute value equations are tricky.
 
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RTCNTC said:
How is | x | = | -x |?

One way to show this is to think of the definition:

$$|x|\equiv\sqrt{x^2}$$

And so we have:

$$|-x|=\sqrt{(-x)^2}=\sqrt{x^2}=|x|$$

Another way to think of this is to view |x| as the distance on the number line between the origin (0) and x (the magnitude of x). Then, we observe that for all real x, -x is the same distance from the origin, even though it's on the opposite side of the origin.
 
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This will take more thinking on my part. Check out the other symmetry post. Right or wrong?
 
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Consider the function:

$$f(x)=m|x-h|+k$$

This is much like the vertex form for a quadratic. The vertex is at:

$$(h,k)$$

The axis of symmetry is the vertical line:

$$x=h$$

If:

$$0<m$$

then the graph opens upwards, and the range is:

$$[k,\infty)$$

But if:

$$m<0$$

then graph opens downwards, and the range is:

$$(-\infty,k]$$

The magnitude of m will determine how "skinny" the graph is...the greater the magnitude, the skinnier the graph.

Here is a graph with sliders so that you can see the effect the parameters have:

[DESMOS=-10,10,-10,10]y=m\left|x-h\right|+k;k=0;h=0;m=1[/DESMOS]
 
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Your knowledge of math is cool.
 

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